I'm one of those pathetic people that has no faith in themselves.
So, even though I say "I'm so ready for a new job and I'm looking RIGHT NOW!!!! " it's likely I'll stay here until I'm fired.
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 13:38, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

you have to MAKE THINGS HAPPEN!
doesn't matter if you fail, matters if you try.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 13:44, Reply)

Would yo mind telling me that on a fairly regular basis?
My last few ventures into the job market have been spectacularly demoralising. The last couple haven't even bothered to send me a 'fuck off and die' letter. I'm beginning to think I am completely unemployable.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 6 Jul 2011, 13:46, Reply)

I know that feeling well
the problem is that most of my apps go through websites and to get a response is rare indeed - I have been looking since January and am mightily hacked off and worried about it all. We just have to keep trying!
(Purpledoris I've got afeckin' job, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 13:53, Reply)

I have started and failed or at least not done well on so many things
you wouldn't believe. But i reckon the only time you can call it a proper fail is when you've given up and found yourself watching x factor as the highlight of your day and just beating out the days of your life looking for more things to buy and half-assed scandals to be faintly surprised by.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 13:54, Reply)

*worries*

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 6 Jul 2011, 13:55, Reply)

my life feels like it's been diminished completely just by reading this one post

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 13:56, Reply)

*underachievers high fives*

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 6 Jul 2011, 13:58, Reply)

sorry
I didn't mean it like that :(
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 13:58, Reply)

But behind your desk is tidy, so surely that's something.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:02, Reply)

Ditto
or rather, I'm beginning to think I'm unemployable, rather than that you are. Except I have no excuse whatsoever not to be getting interviews, which is rather more worrying.
(berk, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 13:58, Reply)

My trouble is
I have been self-employed for nine years, and I now want to get out and change careers. But the stuff I want to do, I have no experience in, and the stuff I could do with my eyes closed, I'm over-qualified for.

I need to know the Right People.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:00, Reply)

So what is it you'd like to do?
EDIT: You might find this site useful tinyurl.com/6keupzx
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:02, Reply)

Something creative
that narrows it down, I know. I just have a really low boredom threshold. I can't bear the thought of doing the same thing every single day. At least now I can take myself off somewhere if I feel like it, and I choose what to sell and when to sell it.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:05, Reply)

I suggested you apply to Aardman a while back, did you send them your details?

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:07, Reply)

No.
The jobs they were advertising didn't really appeal, to be honest.

Did I also mention I'm really picky?
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:08, Reply)

No, you didn't mention you were really picky.
But it might be worth taking a slightly longer-term view on this, if - for example - Aardman was the sort of creative place you wanted to work, then taking anything on offer there would give you a foot in the door and then give you the chance to 'know the Right People' so that when something comes up that you want to do, you are in the right place to take advantage of it.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:10, Reply)

That's true
and I don't want you to think I don't appreciate the advice.

A friend of mine took a job as a receptionist at a national newspaper out of university, and he's now a sub editor, so I know the principle works.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:13, Reply)

or this one
www.skillset.org/
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:10, Reply)

can you sneak in a bit of voluntary work
to get the experience?
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:03, Reply)

Yes, well that is the trouble
and presumably the reason why you are struggling to find something appropriate. I do not have that trouble and am still struggling. I applied for a data entry job yesterday. Fucking data entry. I don't wish to sound so far up my arse that I'm echoing, but that's so far beneath me that if I were to shit on it, my poo would burn up in the atmosphere some distance before it ever saw the actual job.
(berk, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:08, Reply)

I know what you mean though.
That's how I ended up working in a shop for three years.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:09, Reply)

Minimum wage wouldn't even cover my bills
and frankly it's appalling that a science graduate from a Russell group university with a good few years of experience should even have to consider it.
(berk, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:12, Reply)

just keep in mind that it's a means to an end
summer before last I worked on a race track taking bets. Last September I was applying for a job in a petshop
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:11, Reply)

^this
I've done all sorts of shitty jobs. Granted I don't have your qualifications but they were never meant to be career choices, just a way of keeping working.
( girlinthehole, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:13, Reply)

Yes, but I rather thought
that having busted my balls to get through university, getting all the relevant experience I could along the way, then having busted my balls to get my first research post and a foot on the career ladder, such as it is in my chosen field... that I wouldn't then be facing the prospect of falling off said career ladder at what is basically the earliest fucking opportunity.

Perhaps I was naive.
(berk, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:17, Reply)

I will do what I have to
that doesn't mean I have to like it, or that I can't complain vociferously. I am already looking at moving in to a houseshare, despite the fact that the thought of giving up my flat, my space, my privacy and my garden makes me want to burst in to noisy toddler sobs.
(berk, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:15, Reply)

totally.

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:17, Reply)

I have lived on my own for 7 or 8 of the last 10 years
you have no idea just how horrifying I find the thought of living in a houseshare again after all this time.
(berk, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:18, Reply)

But berk, a new place might mean no storage heaters.
however, jesting aside. It is criminal that this country is prepared to invest in people so that they can qualify as scientists, but then remove the funding that allows these people to use their significant skills.
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:17, Reply)

I feel your pain.
If I wasn't married, I'd probably be back at my parents' by now.

*shudders*
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:17, Reply)

Eugh
there is just no fucking way. I'd rather live in a box than move back home; there is just. no. fucking. way.
(berk, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:19, Reply)

There was a time, last year, when
if it wasn't for my dad paying my rent, I couldn't have moved out of the ex's house. There was no way I'd move in with them, even if they weren't 250 miles away
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 6 Jul 2011, 14:20, Reply)