most people think that
it's cheaper and easier to just kill people. Most people, I would argue, don't think things through and are no good at ethics/philosophy
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:32, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

I think that if I walked around my workplace I'd find less than 10 out of the 600 staff here that would want it back.

( Peej, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:34, Reply)

I hope that's true
I suspect a lot would say "no...but there are ocassions..."
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:35, Reply)

The ones that get me are the people that think that james bulgers killers should be killed
When I ask if they would be able to kill a 10 year old boy they respond well they should have waited until they were 18 and then have killed them. Like that makes any sense. I still think only idiots want it back.
( Peej, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:37, Reply)

we had this as a debating topic at school when i was about 12
as that was when it happened. someone in the class suggested putting signs around their necks saying "i killed jamie bulger" and sending them into the middle of liverpool...

i do remember the comment of denise bulger: "i knew where my little boy was all the time. why didn't their parents? if they had, it wouldn't have happened."
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:43, Reply)

She knew he was alone in a shopping centre being abducted?
That's some pretty high class neglect, right there.
( Kroney, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:45, Reply)

i know
shame your mother took better care, eh?!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:49, Reply)

My mother has always blamed the woman that stopped them and asked them if he was alright
and they said "They found him" Any grown adult should have said "I'll take him to the police station" or something not just let two ten year olds take him off
( Peej, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:45, Reply)

they were 10 years old
they knew full well what they were doing was Wrong. my 18 month old niece knows it's wrong when she hits her older brother and sister with a toy, ffs! it's not like they were being asked to debate criminal jurisprudence, but they certainly knew that hurting and killing a younger boy was an evil and a wicked thing to do.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:47, Reply)

Oh yes totally agree
But I still think that the mother could have prevented it by knowing where her kid was and this woman could have prevented it by taking them to the police. I also think the death penalty for two 10 year old boys is too much in an apparently progressive society.
( Peej, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:49, Reply)

I find it staggering that anyone would consider cost when it comes to capital punishment.
"It's cheaper than keeping them locked up" is not an argument for the death penalty.
(Barry from Eastenders is, despite the words written above, not a woman, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:37, Reply)

it costs tens of thousands of pounds a month
to keep those who raped and butchered terrified small children safe from being attacked by other prisoners. some of them might live another 50 years. how many schools could you build with that money? how many hospital beds? how many nurses'/doctors' salaries? how much aid could we give to somalia, for example? are these people worth it?

YOU decide!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:41, Reply)

How many missles could we fire at people that live in sand!

( Peej, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:44, Reply)

they'll always find money for THAT!

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:45, Reply)

Good good!
We can't let these towel heads think they can get away with all being terrorists because we are paying too much on our prison and rehabilitation system!
( Peej, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:46, Reply)

the americans will do it first and make more bangs and fireworks anyway

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:49, Reply)

It's not a question of how much they're worth. You can't, as a society, say
"People have the right to life" and then punish those that break this rule by breaking it yourself.
( Kroney, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:47, Reply)

what about those who want to die?
like brady, with his starvation protest, and huntley, with his suicide attempts?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:48, Reply)

What about them? You weren't talking about people trying to kill themselves
you were talking about us as a people killing other people that we don't like.
( Kroney, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:49, Reply)

Or the person with a horrible painfull illness who needs assistance to end their life.
Anyone who wants to die should have that right in my opinion but no-one should be able to choose who lives and dies.

I think bin laden should have been captured and tried, I don't think any administration should have the right to say "We want him dead, kill him"

Also the death penalty is a crap punishment, it only punishes the people that care about the criminal. If you killed me I wouldn't be around to give a shit.
( Peej, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:52, Reply)

Don't feed the straw man :(

( Kroney, Thu 4 Aug 2011, 16:54, Reply)