Man has been to the Moon
and didn't find anything there. Of course I'm discounting the Sunday Sport's claims that there was a Routemaster up there...

Anyway, should we fund a return to the Moon or should we explore the deep seas?
And whichever you think, how should we do it? Describe your craft.

Alt: Blue Peter or Magpie?
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:01, 130 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

Alt: did you get Joey Deacon on Magpie? No you did not.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:04, Reply)

This is true
and that's why the whole Joey Deacon thing has passed me by. :(
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:16, Reply)

Do you know what? I'm going to look on YouTube and see what I've been missing.

( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:17, Reply)

Susan Stranks was the only reason I watched magpie.
With her wayward, black and white boobies.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:20, Reply)

I never knew she was mixed race.
Did one of her tits dispense chocolate milk?
( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:12, Reply)

Was Magpie on ITV?
If so, that explains why I never saw it more than once or twice: my mother told me we couldn't get ITV on our television and I believed her until I was about 6.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:21, Reply)

But you see BBC showed Grange Hill
and my father wouldn't not countenance me watching such common children who were at a comprehensive school in case I got 'ideas'.
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:24, Reply)

I wasn't allowed to watch it as it was 'common'

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:25, Reply)

Worrying about being common is common

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:33, Reply)

*loots*

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:36, Reply)

My mother just didn't approve of all the advertising, I think.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:42, Reply)

Both, I'm sure if we cut defence spending we could do both very easily
/hippy.

The Yellow Submarine, in both cases.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:05, Reply)

And when the aliens attack
WHAT THEN?
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:33, Reply)

They win.
Like they would anyway. Anyone with good enough technology to get here, has good enough technology to defeat us without trying.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:40, Reply)

I reckon if they've got here
then they don't want war
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:42, Reply)

they want our water

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:44, Reply)

There's better planets than Earth for that I'm sure

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:45, Reply)

the chances of anything coming here
are a million to one
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:46, Reply)

but if they did
they could splat us if they wanted too, no matter how many times we sent up Geoff Goldbum with a fucking macbook, so why worry.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:47, Reply)

I'm harbouring as many diseases
as possible to fight them

/overstretching war of the worlds references
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:52, Reply)

Yeah, coz that's going to happen.
I'm trying to think of a realistic First Contact film. I'm failing. I'm sure there are books.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:56, Reply)

The Sparrow

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:58, Reply)

The slightly lower budgeted follow up to The Crow.

( Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:10, Reply)

I has been lent it.
No idea when I'll get to it though.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:15, Reply)

I just finished listening to Childhood's End by Arthur C Clarke, as recommended by gonz, a a couple of days ago.
Brilliant stuff.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:17, Reply)

there was loads of shit up there
just no aliens or canals or space calves. Hell yeah we should go back I'm going in a big spherical pod covered in that anti-gravity stuff and I'm taking brandy and a good book

alt: blue peter, obvs
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:06, Reply)

You could call the antigrav stuff Cavyrite.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:12, Reply)

YAY!
also yay, I now remember what it was called
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:12, Reply)

We should do both, funded by removing the funding from looting chavs.
I don't know what the outside would like, for either craft, but the inside would look like a medium sized gentlemen's withdrawing room.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:16, Reply)

I don't think chav looting is actually funded.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:25, Reply)

Well, it should be.
Damn it I want a grant so I can go and loot some chavs.

I'll steal their bling and sell it to buy books.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:27, Reply)

This is a good plan

( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:37, Reply)

Damn right it is.
But thanks for the validation anyways.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:41, Reply)

If you removed their benefits, you would be quids in.

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:29, Reply)

yeah because then they'd defintely
stop stealing stuff
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:32, Reply)

I don't think so.
But they would be stealing to support themselves, which would be harder.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:34, Reply)

Pinko Lefty, shut you mouth with your logic.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:35, Reply)

I honestly don't care what's in the sea.
We know the sea and we've seen things from the sea. Anything else we could find would just be more freakier looking fucking fish or some shit. Anything we find on the moon would be an alien and far cooler.

Alt: I had to google Magpie so I'll have to go for Blue Peter.
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:16, Reply)

there are far more alien things in the depths of the sea than on the moon

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:27, Reply)

nautilus fives

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:28, Reply)

I have taken delivery of a lovely hardback copy of 20,000 leagues.
very nice
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:30, Reply)

I have one of those.
I love a nice book. Kindle Schmindle, I say - despite the massive advantages of having one for holidays.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:44, Reply)

I bought a very nice 6 book edition of Verne just the other week.

( Kroney, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:55, Reply)

I don't doubt it. It's all about location.
I'm sure new species of fish are discovered all the time but that doesn't pique my sense of wonder as much as if you found that same fish on the moon.
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:37, Reply)

they'd be crap fish
there's no water
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:38, Reply)

Fish surviving without water? ALIEN FISH!
See? There's so much we don't know.

we I
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:41, Reply)

But how would they have got there?
The number 9 bus doesn't go that far!
( chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:38, Reply)

There's some seriously interesting shit going on with bryozoa
and new therapuetics, particularly antibiotics. See also marine extremophiles. So, the sea is more likely to eventually cure your* crippling knobrot

*nothing personal. this is a generic "your".
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:28, Reply)

pssst
he does have crippling knobrot
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:29, Reply)

HOW WOULD YOU KNOW?
bender
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:30, Reply)

I'm his doctor

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:31, Reply)

*feels both hands on my shoulders*
How are you taking my temperature again?
( Bill Clay a.k.a. Claudio, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:39, Reply)

Anally with his cock

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:39, Reply)

THAT'S THE oh for God's sake.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:45, Reply)

and those extremophile dudes
might give us a clue to how life works and can work on other planets
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:29, Reply)

yeah
much more than the nothing that lives on the moon can tell us
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:30, Reply)

Maybe
but almost certainly not. We're too obsessed with potential alien life-forms being carbon-based for a start. No reason they should be. Except there aren't any, of course.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:33, Reply)

I reckon they'll be Unobtanium based
with an Adamantium shell
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:38, Reply)

I cannot believe you people.
There are 'extremophiles' lurking on our planet with easy access to schools etc and you're all just standing by? We need an *insert paedo victim's name*'s Law (c) - and we need to BURN THEIR HOUSES DOWN.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:47, Reply)

*clicks*

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:49, Reply)

haha.
those fuckers can molest children at over 100 degrees C and under ridiculous pressure. WILL NO-ONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:53, Reply)

I bet there are more interesting things in the sea than on the Moon

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:28, Reply)

Two weeks ago I sat next to Janet Ellis in my local cafe
She didn't shit on the floor though
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:27, Reply)

Did she immediately offer her back doors for booting in?
A dirty one, that Ellis.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:28, Reply)

Well Ray Stubbs was on my other side so i imagine they were having some sort BBC 1
backdoor smashing in affair
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:30, Reply)

There are far more pressing problems than sending a tin can to a dead lump or having Rob Ballard loot graves and tell us it's all dark down there

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:31, Reply)

We should explore that there "East london"
who knows what mineral treasures we'll find
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:32, Reply)

erm here's a map of Shadwell
I'LLMEETYOUDOWNTHEREAFTERWORK
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:36, Reply)

name 5

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:32, Reply)

Your mum

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:33, Reply)

Your mums minge

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:33, Reply)

That Indiana Jones Crystal Skull shit

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:34, Reply)

Street cut charly

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:34, Reply)

overpopulationlols

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:35, Reply)

That's four.
I win.
( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:35, Reply)

YOU LOSE

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:37, Reply)

:(

( Bartleby A dead man on vacation, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:41, Reply)

touche

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:34, Reply)

That's a fucking stupid reason.
The human race is quite capable of focusing on more than one thing at a time. It's like saying don't research a cure for AIDS concentrate on cancer. and that's taking an example where the same people could be useful to both. I doubt many rocket scientists and astrophysists would be useful solving teen pregnancy or world hunger.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:37, Reply)

Dunno we've hit seven billion with ten on the horizon
No particular means to support that mind, dwindling resources, any mass produced alternative to the internal combustion engine anyone??
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:40, Reply)

Fuel cells, developed by the space race.
And your argument that we're outgrowing this planet, actually says we should look for external sources of materials and eventually colonisation.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:41, Reply)

fuel cells either use hydrogen, which is as much use as chocolate fireguard for mass transport
or bacteria, in which case they don't work.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:43, Reply)

your second point is a valid one, though.
The only way that human population will continue to expand is another source of resources, or extraterrestrial colonisation. The problem is that we think we're cleverer than we are, we think we're more important than we are, and we hugely underestimate what a bunch of selfish cunts we are. Preservation of resources for future generations? Like fuck. You'll sooner see Monty listening to Boyzone.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:47, Reply)

I don't see the problem with Hydrogen as a fuel stuff.
Production is a problem at the moment but there was just a few days ago a study about a new enzyme discovered to catalise the production from water. Transport and storage is not beyond current tech.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:48, Reply)

the amount of activation energy necessary to separate H from O in water is astronomical.
So, we aren't going to overcome that. Not even with some funky enzyme. And every other source of H2 is, one way or another, a limited resource.

Production is not ever going to stop being a problem because from a chemical energy point of view it's hideously unfavourable.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:51, Reply)

I prefer the more realistic 'massive population culling through the magic of genocide'

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:51, Reply)

'The Magic of Genocide'
This 12 part magazine builds into a unique collection which celebrates this unique form of population control and unreasonable hatred.

Part one on Ethnic Cleansing is just £1.99 from all good newsagents
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:55, Reply)

and comes free with this replica canister of Zyklon B

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:09, Reply)

I am SO pitching this to DeAgostini.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:11, Reply)

"I love Nazis
best of all the jewkillers
I love Nazis
They're my friends"
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:17, Reply)

*Googles*


*gutted*
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:10, Reply)

Yeah right the Gwizz has really taken off
How much carbon based energy is used to produce all these 'alternatives' in the first instance...
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:42, Reply)

population is self-levelling from an evolutionary point of view.
bollocks to trying to support it. Accept that it can't be supported.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:42, Reply)

The self levelling in this instance being wars over food and water supplies
The time to planning the worlds population growth passed some time ago
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:46, Reply)

that's how every single other species in the history of evolution has done it.
resources vs population size. Our problem is arrogance in believing we're better than that. We aren't.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:49, Reply)

Anyway bring it on, no Chinkys gonna nab my dog without a fight

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:54, Reply)

That's the spirit.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:01, Reply)

Nature is good at thinning us out though
Yay for drought and disease.
(Cancer Joy was short lived, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:45, Reply)

Don't forget genocide.
Nommy, nommy genocide.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:52, Reply)

it's like the equivalent of buying a house on a busy busy main road
and then getting a trusting miaowing little pet that likes to be outside... but has no chance of learning the green cross code... or of pressing the buttons on the pedestrian crossing without opposable thumbs...
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:06, Reply)

Astrophysicists are brilliant at cutting down teen pregnancy
cos not even the worst chav hippocrocopig would fuck one.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:41, Reply)

RIiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBS!
And white wine. And Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:53, Reply)

I have not see this
and feel like I should
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:55, Reply)

you should.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:56, Reply)

This is my first time
and honestly, half way through and I'm intrigued. I get the feeling Peter Sellers is a ghost though, or there's no chance he'll work out which is human and which is replicant, or maybe the alien will get him at the end. IT'S AL SO CONFUSING.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:57, Reply)

Plus, a stormtrooper bumps his head.


^SPOILARRRR
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:58, Reply)

Oh man, you've totally ruined that bit for me now.
Bruce Willis is a gay, the Decepticons are really black market truffle dealers and Harry Potter eventually turns out to be the the root of all apathy.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:59, Reply)

My father went on and on about how great Dr Strangelove was.
Perhaps at the time it came out - but by when I got around to watching it, I found it to be 'Fuckynge Shytte'.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:56, Reply)

Colour me surprised.
What was the last thing you noted was "fucking superb" that wasn't some kind of new fangled drug?
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:57, Reply)

Film-wise?
I know it's hardly new but when I saw 'In Bruges' I was surprised how much I liked it given that that terrible padraig is in it.

TV-wise: I found 'Sherlock' to be simply excellent.

Music-wise: Edan's 'Echo Party' DVD/mix.

Aggressive anal sex-wise: I found your mum to be more than superb.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:00, Reply)

She fucking loves it, the slag.
I meant generally, but it's nice to see you can see the "fucking superb" in life as well as the "fucking shit". How's your stuff generally? I pay far less attention to this place than I used to, but I do miss you all still. Sometimes. Occasionally. Maybe every now and again.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:02, Reply)

It's only ever disappointment at how shit most things are
when compared to what I really love, that leads to my scorn.

I'm not tooo bad, although missing Lusters as she is in CANADA. How're you?
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:04, Reply)

Thriving ol' boy, new job in September, proper helpful therapy with light at the end of the tunnel, almost enough money to go and see the missus in October as planned.
Life is levelling out. Did you get all your money shit together?
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:09, Reply)

We should look elsewhere to live because when the sun goes nova earth is going to be fried.
Magpie! More hip than Blue Peter and better theme tune.
( girlinthehole, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:55, Reply)

Hey bgb.
I don't care much for Blue Peter any more, not since they got rid of that fit one. You know the one. Blonde. GOLDIE! That's the one. How're you?
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:56, Reply)

Jefflols!
I'm doing OK sweetie.

Happy happy joy joy!
( girlinthehole, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:58, Reply)

It's the intensive fingering you've been receiving.

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:59, Reply)

Probably!

( girlinthehole, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:01, Reply)

1. Sarah Greene
2. Pool table
3. Rugby team
4. ??????
5. PROFIT
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:57, Reply)

Surely that's more urban myth than Dizzie Rascal with a lisp after a sex change?

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 17:59, Reply)

I'm not sure I could have made that more contrived if I'd tried.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:01, Reply)

Haha I admire your valiant efforts.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:02, Reply)

we're wasted on these people, Monters.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:02, Reply)

They'd miss us if we de-camped to the special secret board for cool people.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:05, Reply)

Noooooooooooo!

( girlinthehole, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:07, Reply)

Greene Beenie

BONGLE
( Kroney, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:00, Reply)

DEF CON BONGLE, PEOPLE.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:01, Reply)

WOOP! WOOP! WOOP!

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:02, Reply)

'Ello 'ello 'ello. Wot's all this then?

(BrianHequator was stretching owls, on, or around, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:08, Reply)

Oh you bastard.
Nurse! Close the curtains and leave me be for fifteen minutes, would you please? Ta.
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 16 Aug 2011, 18:14, Reply)