My school was fucking wicked for that.
I've always said, they should open up schools outside of school time where people can use equipment and learn different things. Like a French teacher could charge people £5 a night or whatever, have a class of 20 or soo, give half of it back to the school. It's not like anyone else is using the room in that time. Like a collage without the certificate.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:24, 1 reply, 14 years ago)

And who would pay these teachers?
And where would they find teh time to plan, deliver, and mark lessons for an extra 20 people?
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:32, Reply)

^ this
no french teacher would do an extra shift. Especially not for what amounts to £50
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:34, Reply)

I certainly wouldn't have done.
I did some adult German classes when I was doing my PGCE, but that was mostly just for teh experience.

Adults were harder to teach than children, I found. in my subjects, anyway. A lot of language learning involves role-play and gay abandon, which kids will do without too much prompting, but adults generally won't.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:38, Reply)

It's a better hourly rate than most of us get, assuming a 1 or 2 hour class,
The point about planning is taken, but if they recycled the same lesson plans they used for the kids and didn't need to report on national curriculum goals and such it might be manageable.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:38, Reply)

Yeah', totally.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:39, Reply)

You can't do the same lessons for kids and adults
as tehy learn in different ways. And in languages especially, they will use very different sets of vocab, and encounter very different social situations.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:41, Reply)

I bow to your greater experience.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:42, Reply)

I'm thinking about taking an adult learning class in teh new year
Maybe something domestic. Cooking or sewing.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:44, Reply)

Poor Mr. B3th
you must be really good in bed.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:46, Reply)

i certainly am
but I don't see how that relates to your point....
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:49, Reply)

Well, you can't cook and you can't sew, you must have some skills......

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:50, Reply)

I never said I *can't* cook
I was just never taught. Being at boarding school meant my Mum never taught me, and being at a Grammar school meant we didn't do plebby subjects like Home Ec.

I can follow recipes, I just don't know the basics - like just how long do you cook a roasting joint for, and stuff like that.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:54, Reply)

Just be happy you are evidently a good enough lay to overcome these manifest short comings.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:59, Reply)

If, when you're fifty-odd, you get a 25 year old woman who wants to be with you
you might not care how much of a good lay she is...
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 21:01, Reply)

After a long day's work
with marking and lesson plans already to do, a teacher will go back into school and teach adult learners with all the safety implications as well for the school. I find it hard to believe
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:41, Reply)

Where's your faith in human nature ambers?
They already work stupidly hard for a pittance for reasons that can only have to do with a love of the work or the betterment of humanity. Why would they not want to do more. also, see my answer to B3th.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:44, Reply)

Both parents are teachers
my dad already does additional hours tutoring children from disadvantaged backgrounds basic English and maths. He would laugh at the idea of teaching adult learners in a school environment after what is essentially a day that is 8.00 am to 8.00 pm if you include marking and tutoring.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:45, Reply)

Then I guess I have to bow to your greater experience too.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:47, Reply)

Not mine, and hopefully not ever mine ;)
just making the point that it sounds easy for teachers to go above and beyond duty for supposed love of teaching, but not when you have a family to get home to
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:49, Reply)

In suppose the bitter irony didn't come across
I occasionally wish I'd followed my childhood dream to become a teacher, then I hear storys about it and I'm glad I didn't.

The lysdexia might also have been a problem.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:52, Reply)

I'd rather shoot myself than be a teacher
in all likelihood
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:53, Reply)

Yes, I think so too.
But I do respect those that can.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:54, Reply)

Thiiiiiiiiis
I'd rather work in McDonalds than teach. I could just about manage it at university level, but kids of any age can fuck off.
(berk, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:56, Reply)

*high five*
I'd be guilty of multiple murders in minutes
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:57, Reply)

doesn't count as murder if they are not proper people yet.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:59, Reply)

What if they're dressed as nuns?

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 21:00, Reply)

There were two women dressed as nuns at Oxford train station today
I was actually very upset when I realised they weren't proper nuns, but were instead flyering for the play of Sister Act that;s coming to the theatre there.
(berk, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 21:04, Reply)

I hope one said to the other, 'I don't normally come this way'

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 21:05, Reply)

Oxford station is cobbled?

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 21:06, Reply)

Being in Oxford
I'm sure you've already seen plenty of Dominicans and Franciscans stalking about
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 21:09, Reply)

I haven't, in all honesty
not that I've noticed. I'm concentrating more on not mowing ignorant pedestrians down when I'm cycling through the city centre.
(berk, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 21:15, Reply)

The Dominicans are the ones
in long white monk's robes with a black belt and black pocket hanging from it. I was walking behind a novice and an older monk one time and they were discussing which flavour crisps to buy.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 21:17, Reply)

Nope, not spotted any of those yet
Oxford is a strange place.
(berk, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 21:20, Reply)

You can pretend they are penguins.
Oddly, my dad said something about children not being proper people til they are 18 once, my ex wife probably still hasn't forgiven him.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 21:04, Reply)

*Awards berk her first star*

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:59, Reply)

Although I understand, the teacher doesn't have to be a school teacher, they could be someone who's demonstratably good at something.
It would be a huuuge boost to anyone who's bilingal, potential for lots of work where there wasn't any before.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 21:06, Reply)

10 people paying £5 each for an hour, teacher gets £25, so does the school, better return than normal hours.
With consessions for those on benifits, the whole thing is informal, the person teaching doesn't have to be a qualifide teacher.... think of how your computer class works in a libary only with a whole school's facilities.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:38, Reply)

I can see taht point
If I had proper facilities for my 'computing for spastics' class, I'd be a damn sight happier.

Actually, I'd appreciate being paid for it, too.
( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Tue 18 Oct 2011, 20:43, Reply)

Yeah', totally. My school and an awesome DT facilities, it was the best in the area for that, might as well use it in the evenings.
AS someone mentioned up there, can't remember where, things like insurance and guidelines would need to be followed, but in general, don't see why not.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 18 Oct 2011, 21:14, Reply)