Every week there is a different lot of charity muggers.
I go to them "I'm not giving you my account details on a piece of paper in the street",
"BUT ITS 100% SECURE, ONLY CHARITIES CAN GET THE MONEY",
"No, that's not true, I pay plenty of direct debits to non charities.... remember when Clarkson posted his details in the paper?",
"BUT WE'RE 100% SECURE",
"No, you're a fucking scruffy scroat in the middle of the street with a tatty piece of paper and an over inflated sense of ego."

But my new one is "C'mon, there is someone here every week, every single week, I'm only one person, I already give to 3 of them, please can you find someone else? I don't need a guilt trip 'cus I'm not helping out the fucking africans, I'm only one person !"

My next one will be "I don't even agree with your cause, Africa has had enough chances now. Not enough money goes to the charity itself. In fact, fuck you. Yeah', fuck you. My electrictiy and gas bill is now about 20% of my income, they're telling me that the fuel prices are going up yet so have to increase their prices but they're also posting about record fiscal quaters. Apparently now 25% of people's benfit money is going on fuel prices. Fuck Africa, fuck Tigers, fuck pandas. I don't give a shit if every single fucking panda ends up on a dinner plate while grannies who have put in their whole lives are questioning weather they can remain warm or eat this winter. Well done on your fucking duke of eddingborough award you're getting for this, I'm sure it'll help you get a job in the future, you big selfless person, you.".
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 12:46, 5 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

I think I love you.

( b3th Not shit. Not mod., Wed 26 Oct 2011, 12:49, Reply)

LET'S ELOPE !

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 12:55, Reply)

I think I'll get a big badge to wear for visits to town.
Fuck off chuggers.
( girlinthehole, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 12:51, Reply)

There is a homeless person who sits around Farringdon station, I normally sort him out with some food if I don't finish my lunch.
Next time they're both there at the same time, and I have some spare lunch, I'm going to say "can we walk and talk?" (the awnser is always yes to that), so I'm gonna lead them to the homeless man and say to them "This is completely up to you, I can give him my sandwich, or I can sign up with you. I can't do both, your choice, I honestly don't mind eaither way.".
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:01, Reply)

I love you, man
but all the happened to Clarkson was someone set up a charity DD. So, on that, he's got a point. You might pay DDs to lots of people, bills etc, but where is the advatage to anyone in setting up a fradulent gas bill payment?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 12:56, Reply)

Free gas?

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:04, Reply)

you can only set up a DD for the address that the gas is supplied to.
and it'll need to match the bank address (if it doesn't you'd need permisson from the account holder)

So a fradulent DD off your account would only give you gas to your property .. which would seem a rather odd fraud.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:07, Reply)

Can you imagine if I set up £1/month to every registered charity in your name/details in the UK? Or something like that, if I could work out a way of automating it.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:10, Reply)

See below.
What for? there's nothing in it for you.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:15, Reply)

Anyone who accepts DDs though, which are most subscription based company charges...
...will accept and take out the money, even if it does get refunded because it was fraudilent, it's still a fucking hassle. There is nothing to stop someone getting hold of that paper and, say, photocopying it and adding a '1' before whatever figure you put down.

Not just anyone can take out money, but that's not the only nafarious thing someone can do to your account.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:04, Reply)

Yeah, but most subscription companies provide a tangible service to an address
so, for instance, with your DD details I could set up a lovefilm subscription - but only to your address, because the addresses have to match. So it would be a fairly stupid fraud really. Charities are about the only thing where it could work, and fradulently contributing to a charity on your behalf is fairly odd. You still need the person'a address too (the journalist did it to Clarkson by getting his address from another source) .. although I apprectiate you give your address to the chugger wankers, too.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:10, Reply)

Exactly, the details on that paper are the exact details needed to set it up (otherwise they wouldn't have asked).
See the above example with signing you up to everything. Say they do sign me up to Lovefilm, a few 100 similar things would require me to call up all these companies to cancel them or push me way over into the realms of debt. And can you imagine what it would be like to phone up all the charities to cancel? The amount of OH WOE IS ME they'll give you.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:13, Reply)

Yes, but WHY would someone do it, it my point?
there is absolutely fucking nothing for them to gain by doing it (unless they have a vendetta against you) and an awful lot to lose (being prosecuted for fraud)
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:15, Reply)

That's exactly why someone would do it, financial gain is not the only motive for people to do nafarious things.... sometimes it's for the lols, sometimes it's for revenge, sometimes it's just 'cus they can.
Yes, there is a lot to potentially lose, fraud and all that, which would stop a lot of people, but not all people.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:19, Reply)

sorry, had to work there
if you're worried about that than I suggest "don't be cunt to other people" is a better mantra than "never hand out you DD details"

You're being excessively paranoid though, mate, it's an awful lot of trouble for someone to go to in the name of "mildly inconveniencing" you.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 14:01, Reply)

All this talk of DDs is making me think about ladies' bosoms.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:27, Reply)

...and it's a click from me.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:03, Reply)

The one after that should be
'sorry, I'm skint - I just gave £30 to a vagrant con-woman to fund a fatal overdose. Soz'
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:04, Reply)

Oh well, if that's the case, that's another one off our streets, jobs-a-goodun.
She didn't call me back, Sad Times. I'm not going to obsses about it and phone up every hospital, police station and hostal looking for "Some black bird, anything between mid 30s and late 40s, saws all over her body, Dorian or something her name was".
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:08, Reply)