Ja mein fuhrer.

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:31, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

You can have a cadet membership
if you ask nicely.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:34, Reply)

Nothing fascist about that statement.
Party politics and universal suffrage means that we get shit, pandering laws. There are plenty of things that should be done and have no real argument against them (like an opt-out system for organ donation, legalisation and controlled supply of cannabis, legalised brothels etc) which will never get introduced here due to the idiots being allowed to vote.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:35, Reply)

make the fuckers pass an intelligence test
or at least be able to accurately describe one policy of the people they plan to vote for.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:38, Reply)

So... what are you advocating as an alternative?
A poll tax to reduce suffrage? An IQ test?
A benevolent dictatorship?
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:40, Reply)

Am I invisible?

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:41, Reply)

No, sorry, out posts just happen to coincide.

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:46, Reply)

Fair nuff.
I'll stop hurling abuse then, I thought I had been ignored and my little black heart nearly broke.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:49, Reply)

On the other hand, I'd certainly like to see the right to vote removed from those who vote for a party
because their family always did, or because they somehow are unquestioningly perceived to represent a voters social background.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:44, Reply)

you mean like how you vote Tory coz your parents did?

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:46, Reply)

Freefair can't vote.
He's only 16 or so.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:47, Reply)

Is he not of age by now?

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:50, Reply)

Sorry, what?
I have never told you or anyone on this site who I or anyone else I know has voted for?
I've kept that between me and the ballot box, thanks.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:50, Reply)

Sorry.
I bet you a fiver it's tory though, tories never like to admit it.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:55, Reply)

3 million shy people in 1992, wasn't it?

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:56, Reply)

Yes.
Which is why the exit polls showed a Labour victory in 1992. Nobody admitted to voting for John Major. And Tories don't tend to admit it, C to the Quizzle is right on this one.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:59, Reply)

which is odd, really
Shit my vote at the last general is far more embarrising but I'll freely talk about it.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:00, Reply)

Guessing by the name...
Greens or TUSC.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:01, Reply)

Wash you mouth out, greeens indeed, fucking hippies.
I voted Lib Dem for my sins, and thus must take responsibility for the aweful state we are now in.

Half right though, I did vote socialist in the council elections for all the good it did, the 3 councillors they had were kicked out and replaced by labour.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:04, Reply)

So, you won't mind telling who you voted for then?

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:01, Reply)

I reckon he's that rarest of things: A Scotch Torry
and, as such will not answer.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:05, Reply)

He's Scottish?
I wonder If he he voted in both the General and National elections?
I bet he voted SNP, not going to lie, if I was Scottish I certainly would.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:07, Reply)

Well, seems we both guess wrong.
And yes, he is, very.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:08, Reply)

I am indeed Scottish, but I live in York.
And I would vote for the SNP as I support their social agenda. Not sure about independence though, but Alex Salmond is taking prudent steps that are necessary, like renegotiating the Crown Estate so that North Sea oilfields aren't automatically the property of the monarch, but belong to the country.

Alright?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:09, Reply)

As far as I can gather most SNP voters are of the Ex- Scottish Unionist/Tory type.
With generally stronger support from the Orange community.
The fact their safest seats are Perthshire and Angus says it all tbh.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:13, Reply)

Ex Unionist? SNP?
Why the devil would a Unionist vote for the Independence party?

Fascinating how the SNP prove you can have a progressive, left leaning Nationalist party. England needs one too.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:14, Reply)

In terms of bread and butter policy the SNP are close to the Wet, One Nationist Toryism popular in Scotland
that existed before Thatcher.
Also, demographics of the voter base as shown in Opinion polls and vote spread.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:16, Reply)

Anyone defining themselves as a Unionist would not vote for a party dedicated to secession.
Amirite?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:19, Reply)

Yes.
but the kids of the generation who voted 51% SUP would be more open minded, while still wanting to vote for the same basic policy.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:20, Reply)

Left leaning centrism is attractive as a platform.
I think it's as simple as that.

Alright freefair?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:22, Reply)

Well whatever the SNP could be described as, Its certainly working.

(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:23, Reply)

I think the biggest factor in their favour is that they are not Labour, Tory or Lib Dem.
All the three main parties are historically unpopular. The SNP were pretty much a protest vote.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:26, Reply)

As you said, if only we had something similar.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:30, Reply)

At the last General Election, I voted for the Labour candidate.
And he retained his seat.

Alright?
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 22:06, Reply)

Benevolent dictatorship.
Or at least some sort of test to see that people understand the system they're using.

I used to love it when dickheads would bang on about Gordon Brown being an 'unelected Prime Minister'.

Unelected by everyone outside his constituency, as was Tony Blair, David Cameron, Thatcher...do people not know that you vote for your local MP? Do they turn up at the polling stations, see that the party leaders aren't listed and say to the returning officer "excuse me, I, I think there must be some mistake with the mechanism of democracy on offer here, I wanted to vote for David Cameron, but his name isn't on the ballot paper?".

Do they fuck, the thick shits. If you haven't learned to drive a car you shouldn't get behind the wheel. If you don't understand the concept of party based representative democracy then you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

And I do not believe at all in referendums.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:45, Reply)

With this I agree.
Though I still am inclined to agree with Universal suffrage, I wish people wouldn't be so ignorant of the Parliamentary system.
(Glucose-Maximus All over the world., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:48, Reply)

A simple test, no harder than a driving theory test should be sufficient.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 2 Nov 2011, 21:49, Reply)