Again, I wish it weren't needed as I believe that we should all be able to access a good health care system for free.
But that isn't going to stop me obtaining private health insurance as the system we currently have just isn't good enough.

Of course there is an argument that says that if you can afford private health care and education then you should do and keep funding a state system for those that can't afford it.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 18 Nov 2011, 12:17, 1 reply, 15 years ago)

That is what I believe.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 18 Nov 2011, 12:29, Reply)

Trouble with this is, you get people like Swipe who start saying
"why should I be contributing to this state system when it doesn't benefit me, if they want health care they should pay for it like I do" and then you get a run down system that doesn't work properly and ultimately your society ends up suffering.
(Bazongaloid, Fri 18 Nov 2011, 12:39, Reply)

if you're going to quote me, do it properly.
i have never ever said i should not contribute to it. all i ever said was, fuck me, if i have to pay a fortune in tax, can't they spend it properly please. i have never begrudged paying money for education, but i have a brother who is deputy head of a state school, and my mother was head of a state infant school, and my cousin teaches in a state school... and ALL of them have/had the most horrendous stories about how the money gets wasted and doesn't go on the right bits!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Nov 2011, 12:42, Reply)

You don't believe in free education post-18 though

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 18 Nov 2011, 12:46, Reply)

again, not an accurate quote
i said, and have always said, it should be merit-based. if you get good grades, you get it free. which can be weighted towards state schools to make it fair. i would also make it harder to get funding for some courses than others, eg medicine and teaching degrees should have lower threshholds, surfing studies should have a 10 A threshhold!

what i then said was, the students rioting because they EXPECT it for free regardless of the merits of their achievements or proposed courses etc is not something i can get on board with.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Nov 2011, 12:48, Reply)

Fair enough, you did say that.
I don't think you are accurately portraying the students who were rioting demonstrating though. Forgive me if I missed it, but I didn't hear any of them quoted as EXPECTING free education regardless of the merits of their achievements or proposed courses. I think they just wanted everybody to be able to have a fair crack at it.
Let's not start that discussion up again though, eh?
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 18 Nov 2011, 12:56, Reply)

i have a meeting now
so yes, let's not! x
( rachelswipe with a fork, Fri 18 Nov 2011, 13:00, Reply)

gerra room

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Fri 18 Nov 2011, 13:15, Reply)