Oh yeah I forgot about that.
Yeah arms traders are pricks.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 10:51, 3 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

they're jsut providing a service to the defence of peoples and nations
its the peoples that are the problem
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 10:52, Reply)

That would be fine if they were just providing it to democratic or at least accountable governments
but they're not.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 10:56, Reply)

they shouldn't have to police themselves, they're a trade and they sell to whoever they can to make money, like any trade
they can't be held responsible for the actions of their customers in the same way that arms dealers can't be held responsible for things like the dunblane massacre
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:00, Reply)

They don't just police themselves they have the UN and international treaties to govern them
They spend MILLIONS finding loopholes, deliberatly breaking laws where the punishment is less than the profit on the crime and lobbying governments to stall or stop any stricter controls.

Don't know why I'm bothering to say this, you obviously don't think the arms trade is moral.
(PsychoChomp, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:03, Reply)

It is a vital parrt of our economy

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:03, Reply)

That is true, doesn't make it morally right.

(PsychoChomp, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:04, Reply)

So you ant to put thousands of people out of work?
that's hardly moral is it?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:05, Reply)

So selling of weapons can never be morally acceptable in your view?
Or is it just current practice that you disagree with.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:05, Reply)

BUT WHO'S GOING TO SELL ME MY SWORDS AND, ah, MEMORABILIA?????

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:09, Reply)

Do you have a ceremonial Klingon sword on your wall?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:11, Reply)

Fuck off.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:14, Reply)

Yeah, it's Romulan.

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:16, Reply)

Don't cry
an original Simpsons tie from BHS goes for at least 99 pence on ebay
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:19, Reply)

thats what i meant, the UN and international treaties are responsible, arms dealers shouldn't be privatised
and punishments should be severe
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:06, Reply)

But Tony Stark is AWESOME

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:06, Reply)

A business that tries to break the rules?
Shit, that's crazy.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:11, Reply)

I don't see anything immoral about an arms manufacturer, developer etc
who plays by the rules though.
( WormuIus, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 11:16, Reply)

And before I go...
The governments who use them
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 10:52, Reply)

this^

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 10:52, Reply)

Nic CAge is a rubbish actor

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Fri 9 Dec 2011, 10:52, Reply)