infuriating
ignoring the fail's slant to it, COME ON. do not strike on fucking boxing day, you cunts. retailers are on their knees and people in london want to enjoy their christmas breaks...

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2074032/Boxing-Day-Tube-strike--50k-year-drivers-triple-pay-demands-turned-down.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

/angry of kensington
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 9:49, 4 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

a) its the mail scaremongering again
b) you could get a bus/taxi/friend to drive you
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 9:54, Reply)

Of course it's the Mail scaremongering
That doesn't mean that the threatened strike is in any way reasonable or justified.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 9:55, Reply)

whats got three thumbs and doesn't give a fuck?

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 9:56, Reply)

I dunno.
Bob Crow?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 9:57, Reply)

i heard in the nineties he was into hard house
and loved a bit of Raven
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 9:59, Reply)

actually
i'll be in barbados on boxing day.

it's the principle of it. retailers are desperate for boxing day sales. the high street is disappearing down the plughole.

and these cunts want to cost them a further fortune in missed revenue?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:00, Reply)

nope they want triple pay for working boxing day, i don't think thats unreasonable
when i was a kid i'd get 2x salary for xmas eve, 4x for xmas day and boxing day
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:03, Reply)

A christmas BJ is a costly one

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:07, Reply)

fuck off it isn't
they're lucky to have jobs in the current climate. and they didn't get triple pay last year.

irresponsible morons. the people they are punishing are the poor sods whose ticket prices will soar to pay for their triple time. they already get paid too much for pulling a few levers and making a few announcements about being stuck on the platform to regulate gaps in the service.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:09, Reply)

you seem very upset and overly reactionary
i guarantee you there will be no strike, its just bluster and balderdash, they'll work they'll get higher pay than usual, end of
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:11, Reply)

yeah great
and then what happens to tube fares next year?

holding the city to ransom to squeeze more money out of the overburdened workers who have to use the shitty service is disgusting.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:12, Reply)

i'm pretty sure the drivers aren't the highhest earners at transport for london

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:18, Reply)

out of interest, if you HAD to work boxing day
how muich would you expect to get paid?
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:12, Reply)

no more than i already get paid
it's quite clear in my contract: standard hours 9.30-5.30 or such hours and such times at such a location as the firm might require.

that's what i signed up to. i don't go around trying to hold my boss over a barrel for a better deal.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:13, Reply)

you would if it meant taking you away from your family at all hours and during holidays

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:19, Reply)

so don't be a tube driver then
go and work as something else.

oh, what? there is nothing else that pays £45,000 a year and gives you about 35 days paid leave for having zero qualifications?

funny, that.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:25, Reply)

Yeah, cause lawyers earn a fair wage.

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:13, Reply)

so do tube drivers
if these clowns were nurses or teachers, who do a brilliant job for fuck-all compared to the value of what they do, i'd have much much more sympathy.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:14, Reply)

Except they perform what you see as a vital service.
They do more than pull a few levers as well, that was very patronising of you.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:16, Reply)

really?
how come the DLR, which has no drivers, has one of the best records on the transport system then?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:17, Reply)

I have no idea what a DLR is, I assume it's a London thing.
Frankly I don't think you can float about calling someone shite when you have no idea what they do.
Have you driven many trains in your time?
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:19, Reply)

only one
but it's not exactly rocket science. most people could train to do that job.

i think £45k pa plus the amount of holidays they get is a pretty sweet deal compared to what a lot of people in the public and private sectors earn.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:21, Reply)

No not anyone actually.
And again, you view them as a vital part of the infrastructure hence why your knickers are in a twist about them being on strike. If it would be such a blow to the economy that's why they get paid so much.
Also due to the hours they work and that the London underground has so many suicides on it. Can't imagine that's fun for the drivers.

Fuck me, you are very patronising.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:24, Reply)

if you are seriously defending them
choosing to fuck up boxing day for hundreds of thousands of people who want to enjoy their rare days off in london and costing the economy a fortune into the bargain, then you deserve to be patronised. dear.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:28, Reply)

Not me, the tube drivers.
There won't be a stike you dizzy bint, it's part of the negotiations.
Honestly, for a lawyer you are fucking thick. Article in the Daily Mail and you start foaming at the mouth.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:31, Reply)

how many tube strikes have you WORKED through?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:34, Reply)

In Glasgow, quite a few.
I get the bus. I couldn't give a fuck.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:35, Reply)

+ about anyone else

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:40, Reply)

Hi Rach, I won't be here on boxing day, but i do hate tube drivers with a passion
just sayin liek
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:41, Reply)

this is sad pandering

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:49, Reply)

Nope, just don't get upset at non stories in the Daily Mail.
Or think I'm better than someone cause they're a tube driver.
They earn decent money and ain't had to go to uni, plus have a good union that negotiates well for them. Yup swipey, they're real idiots eh.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:42, Reply)

how many points can you deliberately miss?
if there had never been a tubestrike, there would be no upset. the fact is, they do it too often. and make millions of people miserable.

the article is not just in the fail. it's not liz jones ranting about eggs. it's actual news. this just happened to be the link my colleague forwarded, so i had it to hand.

i do not think i am "better than someone cause they're a tube driver". however, i do think that failing to appreciate the fact that you have a fucking cushy job in the current economic climate and treating your clients with enormous disrespect and making their lives a misery means that you might want to count your blessings and think about your work ethic, yeah.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 11:05, Reply)

And you're helping the retailers by being in Barbados?
Worse than Hitler you, worse than Hitler.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:04, Reply)

i am helping virgin
with whom we are flying. and thomas cook, who booked it. and you can bet your sweet ass i'll be hitting duty free like a bitch. on top of all the christmas shopping i am - er - yet to do.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:10, Reply)

Right, so not the high street retailers. On boxing day. That you're upset about.

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:14, Reply)

pfffft
don't make facile points. spendthrift that i am, i think they'd be much more bothered about the hundreds of thousands of boxing day sales shoppers, somehow.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:15, Reply)

Just seems like you can get all rageful about something that's not even going to effect you.

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:17, Reply)

sigh
1 - this particular strike will not affect me on a purely personal level, but other strikes have, do, and will. they keep doing it, they call strikes all the time, and it is making their arguments lose all credibility.

2 - i act for a huge number of struggling retailers. they are dependent on boxing day sales if they are to pay the december quarter rent.

3 - i act for a huge number of landlords. if their tenants don't pay the december quarter rent, they default on their loans.

etc etc etc.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:19, Reply)

And you think a ficticious strike is going to change the economic conditions that much?

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:21, Reply)

if you've never tried to work in london during a strike
you don't really understand what it does to literally millions of people. who have nothing to do with it, except pay to use the tube every day. it's just not a decent way to go about negotiating.

particularly given the amount of times they do it. you can't tell me that there is no deliberate malice in the choice of day.

yes, if they go ahead, it will cost the economy a fortune.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:24, Reply)

Right. Not much up on industrial relations then swipey.

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:26, Reply)

you get off your ivory tower and move to london
you work your arse off

you find that you can't get to/from work or get to client meetings or hospital or whatever it is you need to do

you find you can't go out that night or people can't come to your party or your wedding

you spend a fortune on taxis or you queue for hours and hours for buses

and then 3 weeks later they do it all again

THEN i might listen to your opinion on people who think it's ok to strike and put literally millions of other people through all that
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:30, Reply)

HAHAHA!! Yeah, I'll get off my ivory tower in Glasgow and move to rural London.
Fuck off you tedious shit, you'll be in Barbados anyway.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:33, Reply)

ah, a lovely personal insult to end it with?
marvellous work.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:36, Reply)

No problem, you earned it.

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:39, Reply)

*takes a deep breath*
fucking hell, I almost 100% agree with you on this

*feels slightly dirty, and not in any good dirty way*
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 9:55, Reply)

i thought we'd agreed recently that we do agree on some things after all
*hurt face*
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 9:58, Reply)

We do
but I have to maintain the image for Al's sake.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 9:59, Reply)

he's not even here
murp
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:03, Reply)

Oh I'm sure he is, taking notes.
and wanking.

Mostly wanking.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:10, Reply)

gee, that's a delightful image
/bowks
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:10, Reply)

Good god!
There will be pedestrians spilling onto the roads! I better go cycling that day to make sure they all stay on the pavements as I lout up Central London in my high-vis lycra.

/s
(Himjim died a little more inside on, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:00, Reply)

high-vis lycra?
does it have a free slit in the arse?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:01, Reply)

Xmas drinkie?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:02, Reply)

As a lawyer, how much would you charge to work Boxing Day?
*Devil's Advocate*
(Bear Pookie The Frankly Challenged. Halloween is coming to town., Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:03, Reply)

Fuck all extra you div

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:06, Reply)

You seem to confuse being a lawyer and working in Jennys cafeteria

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:07, Reply)

hey, where did my answer go?!
the answer is, as a lawyer, if i had to work boxing day - which i have done in the past, yes, and new years day too - i wouldn't get an extra penny for it!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 15 Dec 2011, 10:08, Reply)