It sounds like she went for a medical procedure that is deamed within the confines of 'safe' according to whatever governing body deemed it soo...
... and that weather she got them "To have bigger tits, tee hee, bouncy bouncy, tee hee" or because she has a chronicly low self esteem value.... eaither way, she didn't expect the product she purchases to no longer be fit for perpous, and this product/service she bought has the potential to seriously hurt her health through no fault of her own.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 14:59, 3 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

yeah, but at present the research suggest that they don't pose a serious risk

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:00, Reply)

Is this UK taxpayers problem?

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:02, Reply)

natural selection innit, those that can afford to get the removed will survive
those who can't...
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:03, Reply)

..will need bigger coffins.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:10, Reply)

Then why are they replacing them at all if there is no risk?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:03, Reply)

People and the media kicking up a fuss.
There is a risk, they're not medical grade and should never have been used. However the risk is so low that there's not enough data to suggest a failure rate.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:05, Reply)

They're not fit for the purpous they were built for", statuary rights or something like that, isn't it?
Surly whoever did it should replace them, and claim it on their malpractice insurance?
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:08, Reply)

yeah but only if the risk of failure is higher than the risk of an opperation
as I mentioned up there www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1494289
(PsychoChomp, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:13, Reply)

legally they are the same as any other 'vendor' yes.
They should replace them, but not the NHS. The NHS should just remove them, and I'm still pissed off that they will have to do this in some cases. Besides, smokers and drinkers pay their tax don't they. There isn't a titty tax.
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:15, Reply)

I think the NHS should replace them if they were put in by the NHS,
You can only get plastic surgery and reconstruction on the NHS not cosmetic, so these women have had breast cancer or something not just wanted bigger boobs.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:17, Reply)

Oh aye yeah

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:23, Reply)

this would be true
were it not for the fact there isn't one single medical reason to replace them, it's total press scaremongering. And press scaremongering that started in France, let us not forget. A country where you are allowed to be registered with as many doctors as you like in case the one you usually use won't prescribe you enough shit to shut you up.

It's like asking Texas and Arizona to advise on liberal immigration lawmaking, really
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:46, Reply)

Thank fuck
My moobs would cost me a fortune
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:18, Reply)

I always thought it was up to where-ever they were purchased from. Part of the purchase was putting them in, so part of the purchase should be about replacing them...
... and the practice's insurance should cover it... if it was done on the NHS, then they should do it, if it was done on BUPA, then they should (etc).

But taking what Chomp said up there, if the risk of replacement is higher than not, then it shouldn't be done at all.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:20, Reply)

I was referring to people who had them done privately but want the NHS footing the bill

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:23, Reply)

I'm not 100% sure the NHS should foot the bill, completely unsure of that, but I'm pretty sure the person who got it done shouldn't.
Everything I'm saying is on the basis of it being safer to replace than to leave them in.... but I think it was the manufacturer's fuck up, they should pay for it.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:57, Reply)

PIP no longer exists so that can't happen

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:58, Reply)

it's not safer to replace them than to leave them in
because ... here's the thing .. there's not even one tiny bit of evidence they cause harm.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 16:03, Reply)

if you have an optional medical procedure, you should be prepared for the consequences
i had all this when i had laser eye surgery.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:03, Reply)

was your optomotrist called Auric?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:04, Reply)

Wow, that's a bit heartless.
It's not like getting cancer from fags where everyone who smokes knows about it beforehand.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:10, Reply)

you only have yourself to blame though
if i'd gone blind or lost the ability to drive at night etc, i'd have had to blame myself for having the surgery too. my eyes worked fine before it, they just needed glasses - which i found unattractive.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:12, Reply)

This^
Glasses and contacts were a pain in the eye
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:17, Reply)

I like my glasses.
I hated contact lenses, although I do miss being able to wear normal sunglasses instead of heavy prescription ones.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:18, Reply)

^This is the single most boring thing I have ever said on B3ta. And i've said some boring shit before.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:36, Reply)

If it turned out that happened, due to a faulty part of (say) the eye-drops you use afterwards or the lazer.... then you wouldn't take legal action against that element that went wrong?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:22, Reply)

i couldn't now
there's a 3 year limit on personal injury claims.

it would depend what it was. i suppose it wasn't really a fair analogy. if they fucked my eyes totally, yes i'd have sued - although other people tried that and got zero compensation - but if i had just had to suffer a deterioration in the quality of my life, such as dry eyes or no night driving, both of which are well-documented side effects, i think i'd have had to take it on the chin.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:27, Reply)

The 3 year thing isn't really the point.
In this case it's not the surgen fucking your eyes, it's a product that he used fucking your eyes... a product that is designed, sold and used to not fuck your eyes. I don't think people are understanding, it's not an ordanary/documented risk that "your implants my contain non-medical grade blah bah".

I can't see the difference between this and someone buy a fridge from dixons that turns out it has a manufacturing fault that can cause house fires.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:54, Reply)

No, it's not at all.
Although, if you want to use that analogy, it would be like someone buying a fridge from dixons that a friend of a friend in France reckons might cause house fires despite there never being one single case of a house fire being actually caused by that fridge. So, out of interest, do you think you should be able to take your fridge back after you've had it for 8 years because some bloke said he heard it might cause a fire?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 16:02, Reply)

Oh no, not at all, I'm basing everything I'm saying on them being unsafe, I've said that right from the start.
I'm not arguing weather they're safe or not, I don't have a clue....I'm arguing as to if they are unsafe, that the women who have had it done should have sympathy and shouldn't foot the bill themselves.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 16:16, Reply)

The point is what you wish them to be unsafe relative to?
I mean, nothing is abitrarily "safe". In this case, for whatever reason, every patient has chosen to have something foreign placed in their body, which has an inherent risk.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 16:38, Reply)

Racist
They haven't all got AIDS, you know.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 16:54, Reply)

There have always been risks with implants. They can rupture etc

( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:12, Reply)

Yes, and "It being made of factory gloop" shouldn't be made of one.
Taking a different route, isn't getting ill from food poisoning in a resturant just as bad?
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:55, Reply)

it's made of silicon.
silicon is silicon. The fact that it's matress grade rather than tit grade doesn't actually make it in any way more dangerous.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 16:05, Reply)

well, yeah. it's pretty much exactly like that.
You had something you don't medically need which has a universally known and well publicised risk to it. Even glossing over the risk in the surgery itself.

Do they "deserve" it? No. Am I going to have much sympathy? Not really.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:39, Reply)

This goes into the debate between quality of life vs medically need.
Let's say a lady has chronic low self image and resulting depression that could be eliviated (note: not 'cured') by it.... then surely it's worth it? Surely the fact that they do it at _all_ on the NHS shows that it is a nessersary in some cases?
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:50, Reply)

This person has not had it done on the NHS
Therefore nothing you've said there is relevant.

I'm not talking about NHS reconstruction or self-esteem cases. Partially because they correspond to a very, very low proportion of all implants but mostly because the NHS have already said, some while ago, that they will replace any PIP implants in those medical cases without question if the person is concerned. Even though there is absolutly no reason to.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:59, Reply)

they have to be replaced every ten years anyway
so this way, if her clinic pay up, she gets a free upgrade
( Roota zweeeeeoooooowm, Tue 10 Jan 2012, 15:12, Reply)