On their budgets and timelines, yes, mostly, 99.99999999%
This is why as a developer I'm so disgusted at those who have developed the NHS and DWP systems, they've spent silly money, millions and millions. That could buy a development team big and strong enough to create the perfect infrastructure.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 11:48, 3 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

I am dealing with Fujitsu at the moment in their dispute with the NHS.
They are fucking hopeless.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 11:49, Reply)

I don't want to justify the bollocks that they produce,
but the main problem with the dwp and nhs systems is that the contracts change every month or so with new requirements procedures access patterns etc, which makes designing them an incredibly complicated bodge job.
(PsychoChomp, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 11:55, Reply)

It's both sides.
They don't bother varying the contract when they make changes too, which makes it incredibly difficult to manage. Then, when the IT provider puts in a massive bill, it gets paid without too much scrutiny.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 11:58, Reply)

Too fucking true,
you should have seen some of the things I've had to point out after reading a contract that's been signed off.
Most recent was "erm who pays for this?" project manager "I'm not sure but I'm sure its come up"
(PsychoChomp, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 12:10, Reply)

I read in the metro yesterday one of the major guys behind the Obama campaign as replicated Facebook but with a buisness in mind, and that they're going to just give it to hte NHS for organisational issues.
Makes sense to me.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 13:03, Reply)

Ok, only looking at page titles here, but we're talking about the billions....
www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=NHS+computer+system#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&source=hp&q=NHS+computer+system+cost&pbx=1&oq=NHS+computer+system+cost&aq=f&aqi=g-j1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2833l3571l0l3707l5l4l0l0l0l0l251l661l0.1.2l3l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.,cf.osb&fp=79c69f040104696b&biw=1353&bih=805

.... Google themselves wouldn't cost "billions" to repoduce.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 13:04, Reply)

... purely on a software level, to repoduce... not talking about IPs and buisness logic. I'm talking about the software and hardware it's run on.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 13:05, Reply)

As a professional software tester, may I just say
There is no such thing as a perfect system and even one that is 99.99999999% perfect will still fuck up once every 10,000,0000 ( may be out may a decimal place or 2, maths is not my strong suit)times which, given the number of transactions processed in a day, let alone a year by any major bank, would still cause a fair number of fuckups. sometimes shit just happens.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 19 Jan 2012, 12:00, Reply)

Thats why there should be parallel systems coded seperatly for that sort of thing, if they don't come to the same conclusion they block any payments.

(PsychoChomp, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 12:09, Reply)

This would be good.
However you'll still get mistakes. just less often. I imagine there are also budgetary constraints.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 19 Jan 2012, 12:27, Reply)

The error was more likely somewhere between a chair and keyboard, I'd hate to debug the issue.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 19 Jan 2012, 13:02, Reply)