it's so unromantic
but deeds of trust are essential. you should never underestimate how much someone can fuck you over at some point down the line. and if they baulk at a deed of trust or a living together agreement, then that of itself is a bad sign.

i see sooooo many people who've been done over by former partners, siblings, even parents/kids. it's really sad.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:07, 3 replies, latest was 13 years ago)

Deeds of trust are only of any use if you aren't married though.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:09, Reply)

depends
but yeah, family lawyers can unpick it more than most. esp if you have kids.

the main thing to watch out for is if you are putting more cash in than the other party. otherwise it doesn't really matter.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:11, Reply)

The court will always start from the position it's a 50:50 split if no kids.
You'd have to go some to get anything else. Deed of trust would count the same as a pre-nup - ie fuck all unless the marriage was short. Investment of time is the same as money in a divorce so being a higher contributor is irrelevent unless you can somehow prove the other party had been hiding money away or blowing it on their own lifestyle. Been there, done that, sold the t-shirt to cover the legal fees.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:15, Reply)

This makes me sad.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:18, Reply)

I think the concept is reasonably fair, actually.
the problem is usually the execution.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:19, Reply)

If the marriage is short
you're entitled to take back what you brought in, so if you had a lot before you were married you'd get that back - but much over 5 years and even that doesn't apply.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:18, Reply)

i've never done family law, so i am vague there. it's kind of a grey overlap
but i HAVE succeeded on a deed of trust where the husband put in 90% and the wife 10%. however, she may have baulked at the fees and backed down.

ah, they'd only been married 3 years. maybe that explains it.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:19, Reply)

pricing the other person out of the game with legal fees
is how it usually works.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:22, Reply)

it's a key factor in 90% of my negotiations
only insurers and seriously high net worth individuals with a point of "principle" ignore it.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:27, Reply)

WOOLFE WILL BE FURIOUS !!!!!!

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:36, Reply)

haha i've met him
all i could think of to say was "nice speech".

he must have thought i was a scarlet gibbering idiot.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:39, Reply)

Yeah, I ent got a fucking clue what to say to the great and good, so I keep me trap shut and look stupid, it's worked so far.

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:55, Reply)

Takes a bow for insurers.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:41, Reply)

we had this guy here who practically robbed his own kids of every penny they had
brilliant bloke, we made him MD
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:10, Reply)

Love isn't about romance.
It's about shooting your muck right up someone's fishy cunt
(TheColonel, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:12, Reply)

you should get a job writing valentine's cards
that was better than anything i saw in paperchase today.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:13, Reply)

for the 12th time on here
Roses are red
Ivy is twisted
Bend over love
You're about to get fisted.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:16, Reply)

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I've got a knife
Get in the van.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:19, Reply)

ah, man, considered the subject matter of the coversation above
you've done well to make me giggle. Have a gold star, sir.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:21, Reply)

;-)

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:25, Reply)

rape amuses you?

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:29, Reply)

Both Badger and I find it hilarious.
I am surprised that you are so against it as you are clearly a product of it.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:34, Reply)

hey hey hey, it's the only way he gets laid
so don't be mean to him
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:36, Reply)

well holy fuck i just saw this
thats a bit completely out of order innit?
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:47, Reply)

Hell yes.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:35, Reply)

29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfoxyn4SNH1qdp7klo1_500.jpg
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:38, Reply)

some by clowns.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:40, Reply)

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I've got Alzheimer's
Cheese on toast
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:21, Reply)

it's not just the ivy that's twisted, is it?
so this brother of yours.

he hot?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:20, Reply)

He's married with two small kids.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:22, Reply)

does that mean he can't be hot?
yeah ok, i guess it does.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:26, Reply)

he also has a brother who looks like uncle fester in a flight suit
so the genese aren't too good neither
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:30, Reply)

coming from the man who didn't manage to inherit a neck from either parent
i find this a bit much
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:32, Reply)

i was stopping!

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:34, Reply)

i wish you would

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:35, Reply)

my monitor is pretty low so i am

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:41, Reply)

I'm confused by this post.
Where would you get that idea from?
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:36, Reply)

where does he get most of his ideas from?
his own hairy distended arsehole, by the look of it!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:38, Reply)

your profile

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:40, Reply)

ah, right, that makes sense now
I thought you were talking about my brother when you meant his brother. No worries.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:42, Reply)

tahts why i said 'he' in a conversation where your brother was being refered to as 'he'
YOU THICK PAL?
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:43, Reply)

i think you're overestimating the time/attention he pays to your posts, if i'm being brutally honest

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:44, Reply)

i don't think it takes much time or attention to read a sentance

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:45, Reply)

or to type it, judging by your spelling

( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:46, Reply)

i only do it to impress you

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:46, Reply)

yes, but you'd also refer to me as "he" in that situation. Even if I was paying enough attention to read it properly
so, in conclusion, no, no I'm not.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:47, Reply)

no i would refer to you as you as you are you and you are not he

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:48, Reply)

especially what with you having a photo of yourself in a flight suit in your profile
you really are really stupid
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:50, Reply)

No you wouldn't
as you weren't replying to me, you were replying to swipe.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:56, Reply)

yes i fucken would
i was replyin to swipe who had replied to you, in the preceding 10 texts or so your brother was referred to as 'he', and as i ahve never seen your brother, and you have a FUCKEN picture of your FUCKEN self in your FUCKEN profiel wearing a FUCKEN jumpsuit you should have known that i fucken meant fucken you

FUCKS SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE
(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:58, Reply)

quentin is a neckless desperate mental
next.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 16:09, Reply)

xxxxxxx

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 16:13, Reply)

Most women seem to think he's pretty hot
I more thought the wife and children woudl put you off.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:35, Reply)

that was my point, darling
that the wife and kids automatically mean he can no longer be considered as hot.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:37, Reply)

good stuff.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:43, Reply)

sad but true
i actually have some principles.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:44, Reply)

what you got up to at school is nobody's business

(Quintno EXPERIMENT RUINED CANCELLED, LEFT 4EVER, Thu 9 Feb 2012, 15:49, Reply)