Also, it's BAE systems that build it you fucking idiot.
why the fuck would they close their yards because scotland became independent?
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 14:59, 2 replies, latest was 13 years ago)

maybe because they're going down the tubes as well?
Also, no more Scottish voters in marginal constituencies = no need to build and mothball an expensive aircraft carrier white elephant.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:02, Reply)

okay, so what you're saying is scottish independence will effect BAE systems business strategy?

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:04, Reply)

it's already affected mine, i've sold all my shares in rust coloured paint

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:05, Reply)

Yes
Defence companies are politically controlled. That's why the BAe/EADS merger just fell through, the Germans wanted more control over it and us and the French didn't want that.
BAE only exists as it is cos the Govt allowed it to buy all the old Royal Ordnance etc anyway.
If the political reason to build in Scotland (votes) goes, so will the work. If it was cost reasons they'd be built in Korea or Italy.
(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:11, Reply)

Because the MOD has never allowed a major warship to be built outside of a British port.
If Scotland goes independent it's a cert they'll insist on all ships being built in English yards, regardless of what BAE owns.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:03, Reply)

YEAH! just like tendering out contracts to polish and czech companies for tanks!
or eurofighter.
or our interest in swedish saab interceptors
or our new kit suppliers
or the american built apache fleet
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:05, Reply)

You can only get apaches from america
it's where they live in their teepees
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:06, Reply)

Can you point out the SHIP in that list? FFS.
And the Apaches are not 'American built'. They are built by Westland in Britain under licence.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:09, Reply)

you do realise a load of the compnents don't come from the uk.
you do know we haven't "built" a full warship here for quite some time.

perhaps you mean assemble.
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:10, Reply)

plus, you know, we also said the same thing about tanks.

( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:11, Reply)

You can argue over semantics as much as you like
But work that can be done in England won't be sent to an independent Scotland.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:12, Reply)

okay, thanks for the info.
sorry, what's your role in whitehall again?
( mark morrisons prison shoes I love Willie, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:13, Reply)

pencil case

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:14, Reply)

Much the same as yours I'd imagine.

(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Mon 15 Oct 2012, 15:15, Reply)