Lets talk about drugs.
Some MP's who've spent a good time looking at it have said, we should sort out our drug policy. And have a Royal commision about it. Torys and Labour have said no.

So what do you think? Is changing drug policy worth doing? if so is it worth doing now?
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:12, 146 replies, latest was 12 years ago)

Finally a subject I can really get behind.
Legalising all drugs (even the really bad ones) is common sense but also political suicide so no-one will have the bottle to do it.

I am really very impressed (and surprised) by those two US states legalising weed. I never thought I'd see that in my lifetime.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:15, Reply)

18 States have legal medical weed as well.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:17, Reply)

The US states changing legislation doesn't really change anything, as drugs (possessing, consuming, selling) are viewed as criminal activities under federal law.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:17, Reply)

State police won't do anything about it, only the ATF or FBI etc will do something.
That just means that there's a lot less people checking if you're breaking the law.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:18, Reply)

Drugs? DRUGS?
NOT IN MY HOUSE SONNY JIM!!
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:16, Reply)

If it was legal in the UK and in pubs would you let people smoke spliffs in your "manahhhhh"

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:17, Reply)

Outside perhaps - in the "joint" area

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:21, Reply)

Nah,
it's hard enough to keep an eye on those that can't handle their booze, without getting involved in all the people whiting out in the toilets after trying their first spliff with their mates on their 18th birthday. And I know if i have a spliff after a skinful I'm proper fucked.
I'm all for legalising drugs, in theory, but in my industry, it would just create more problems if every other wanker was coked up to the eyeballs and acting the cunt.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:22, Reply)

Weed before booze, that's the rules.
And yeah I can see how that'll be shit.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:23, Reply)

I couldn't smoke a joint until I'd had a few pints

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:26, Reply)

What? if I even have a pint or a glass of wine, and then a spliff, I feel shitty.
Other way round is fine.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:27, Reply)

Just the way it works for me
See also: Speed does nothing at all until I smoke. Mushrooms dont work. Acid just made me giggle a bit.

I have broken my drugs bone
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:28, Reply)

You are a drugwrong

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:29, Reply)

POT - KETTLE

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:30, Reply)

HOW DARE YOU

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:36, Reply)

You'd sell more drinks though.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:25, Reply)

probably,
but you know what people are like on coke, it would be a full on asshole parade every saturday night.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:37, Reply)

I'm somewhat out of touch with the drugs world, having not touched any for about 10 years
Are the "kids" now using weed, E and speed or are they all mcat-ed up?

Whatever the Police are doing now isn't working is it?
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:21, Reply)

Kids are using less drugs now than they have been since 1996.
Teenage boys now have access to streaming HD pornography, they don't hang around on the street as much.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:22, Reply)

I notice a difference in drinking habits
When we were 15-16 we drank cider and lager. All the kids now drink vodka and shit.
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:26, Reply)

'vodka and shit' is delightful cocktail.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:28, Reply)

It certainly is

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:29, Reply)

Is that a "floater"?

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:34, Reply)

If they legalised drugs in the UK
I'd be able to get a job as the equivalent of a somellier or some shit.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:35, Reply)

haha!
Try the DMT - it really is rather delightful
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:37, Reply)

Trying to make a coherent argument against Gay marriage seems impossible.
www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/dec/10/conservative-mp-parents-gay-children
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:35, Reply)

Oh and he's not bigoted because he fought a gay boxer.
"I'm not a bigot, I punched a gay repeatedly once"
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:38, Reply)

Oh and linked a video of him punching said gay man to prove it.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:40, Reply)

there's an argument there?
I couldn't find it.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:12, Reply)

This is going well

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:42, Reply)

Needs MOAR drugs

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:42, Reply)

b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1804275
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:43, Reply)

I haven't had any drugs for months if not over a year, not that bothered to be honest.
I watched Stewart Lee's new show last night though, Carpet Remnant World. It's good.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:44, Reply)

There's a great bit where he reads out online critiques he found while googling his name.
Some of the ones on his website are from b3ta pricks.
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:45, Reply)

I liked him when he was Lee and Herring
but he's a bit stuck up his own arse these days.
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:46, Reply)

He spends a lot of the show telling the audience what they should and shouldn't be laughing at.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:49, Reply)

Best Worcester sauce ever.

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:56, Reply)

Great on cheese on toast

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:02, Reply)

I don't think he's anywhere near as funny or clever as he clearly thinks he is.
There's something of the smartarse student about him which is a bit sad seeing has he must be well past 40. I don't dislike him though, I'll watch him if he's on and occasionally he's very funny.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:50, Reply)

He's my favourite comic.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:52, Reply)

I'm not sure I really have one.
I like Steven Wright as a standup but my favourite comedy programme will always be 'A Bit of Fry and Laurie'.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 11:59, Reply)

Also Richard Pryor's standup was genius.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:01, Reply)

He set the bar for a host of other black comedians

( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:04, Reply)

black
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:05, Reply)

you totes need to check out
King Billy Cokebottle
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:07, Reply)

Oh aye?

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:08, Reply)

Aussie Abo. Comic
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAOq99LdsoY
I think I have linked this one before, Some of his material is refreashing.
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:17, Reply)

He was no Lenny Henry
thats for sure
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:22, Reply)

'A Bit of Fry and Laurie'.
'Love thy neighbour'
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:01, Reply)

strikethrough failure

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:02, Reply)

Yep
I only learnt how this weekend, it taken me ages to post a pic yesterday
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:03, Reply)

I do like Love Thy Neighbour' though. My brother's got the DVD
As with Til Death Us Do Part people who think it's racist have totally missed the fucking point which is that the white guy is the dickhead every time.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:05, Reply)

Are you calling me Marigold
I don't think Alf was rasist he just hated everything equally
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:07, Reply)

*Mr Angries*

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:01, Reply)

Hahahah

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:02, Reply)

Have you seen Snuff Box?
It's a bit like a more sureal version of 'A Bit of Fry and Laurie'
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:07, Reply)

Never heard of it.
My mate Paul's got a BBC3 series at the moment, unfortunately it's one of those 'hidden camera' things and not really to my taste.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:08, Reply)

This is it
www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/5302285/Snuff-Box/Product.html?searchstring=Snuff+Box&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search
(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:13, Reply)

that one passed me by entirely.
might give it a whirl on your say-so
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:26, Reply)

I really liked The Trip.
But I know you don't like Rob Brydon.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:28, Reply)

I like his Ronnie Corbett impression

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:34, Reply)

lovely singing voice.
but then he's welsh, I suspect that's kinda like being Asian and knowing Kung Fu.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:35, Reply)

legalise it and tax it.
The Government have the choice of legalising, regulating and taxing; or leave the multi-billion pound industry in the hands of gangsters. Seems churlish to plump for the second option simply to retain sections of the electorate.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:19, Reply)

once again we agree.
Sorry about that.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:28, Reply)

Look CQ, just fuck off, ALRIGHT?

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:29, Reply)

Sorry Doze. *sadface*
I've had a slightly paranoid rant down there, there's probably something you could call me a twat about in that.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:34, Reply)

the problem will be, I suspect
that the royal commission, if they have one, will go the way of David Nut and Leveson. it will spend a lot of time and effort getting to a sensible answer, which will then be roundly ignored.

*dons tinfoil hat* I suspect this may have less to do with fear of alienating sections of the public than it does to do with alienation sections of the media who seem to have an unhealthy influence over the government. Bad as the semi-elected pricks are Murdock is both worse and not even vaguely elected or accountable.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:32, Reply)

That's right Wilf, the media industry is famously anti-drugs.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:35, Reply)

the people in the industry take a lot sure
but point me to any headlines that are pro-drugs and it's the headline that influence policy, not the private opinions of those who write them.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:36, Reply)

I think it's a supply and demand thing.
The papers just pander to the worst facets of society, rather than actually creating it. Everything they say and do is geared specifically towards sales, rather than some kind of genuine moral stance.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:38, Reply)

I said that below.

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:40, Reply)

true, true
but don't you think they also encourage that kind of mind set, people get their info from the papers and form views accordingly, scary but tru, a lot of people believe what they read in the papers and a lot of people read the Mail.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:41, Reply)

to a point, yes,
it goes both ways.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:42, Reply)

Hang on,
that doesn't make any sense at all. The media can put pressure on the government when it comes to big decisions, but normally they only get whipped up because they know the public will support them, and then buy their newspapers. So either way, they are alienating both.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:38, Reply)

See above reply to Monty
Papers have a big influence on opinions and voting behavior. OK, it's not all one-way but compare the number of people who are OK with the odd joint etc with the number of papers ever to come out in favour of legalising anything.

I dunno, maybe I just move among hippies, but I struggle to think of anyone I know who wouldn't at least legalise cannabis.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:43, Reply)

I wouldn't.
Maybe bacause of the problems it would cause my industry, like I said above, but if we can't even trust most people with booze, which, yes, I know is more harmful, how are you ever going to argue that the common man is going to use cannabis responsibly, when people are already fuck ups with the one vice that is legal?
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:46, Reply)

two points:
firstly, legalising it does not mean people have to be allowed to smoke it in pubs

secondly it's absurdly easy to get hold of, I doubt that many more people would smoke it than do if it were legal, but that's an opinion.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:54, Reply)

of course they would,
It is a lot more difficult to get hold of than just popping down the shop for a six pack of special brew. It would be cheaper if legal most probably, and therefore might attract the down and outs.

And try making it legal without allowing it in pub gardens. This is the problem I see, and this isn't aimed at you, I have many friends on the legalise side of the argument that are the same. In our little circle (i do smoke) we would all be responsible if it was legal, probably even be ok to do it in the pub as well, and they argue that that is the reason it should be lagalised, forgetting the sort of people I encounter every day at work, espeically on weekends, who have no self control, are cretins, do not act like repsonsible human beings, and i run quite a nice pub in Oxford. Now, these people shouldn't be allowed booze, let alone any other substance that could cause them to vomit on my furniture, or pass out and mash their head open on the cobbles. But its too late to ban booze, we should not encaurage these people. at all. We're not all like you and me and our hippy mates.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:14, Reply)

I can get drugs delivered pretty much 24-7, don't even need to leave the door.
Also given the taxation it would attract, I doubt very much it would be cheaper, just less likely to be adulterated or whatever.

The rest of your point is sound though.
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:16, Reply)

MAybe you're right about the taxation,
but where there is a market, there is a marketeer, and therefore cheap cannabis, on the lines of special brew, would exist I'm sure.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:19, Reply)

Just think the sales of nuts and pork scratching’s
Would go through the roof.
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:16, Reply)

wait a minute, the mental one from The A-Team is involved?
Fucking hell.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:38, Reply)

He's the shadowy mastermind I tell ya!

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:44, Reply)

Or "The Man" prefers debt as a means of controlling the masses?

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:46, Reply)

relevence?

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:58, Reply)

Yup
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/10/monkey-found-toronto-ikea-store
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:41, Reply)

Haha nice coat

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:43, Reply)

I bet that coat is more expensive than anything you have ever worn.

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:47, Reply)

My leather jacket cost four hundred sheets guv.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:50, Reply)

One toilet roll?

(localboy purveyor of pisspoor puns, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:53, Reply)

I lolled at this

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:04, Reply)

Battered has sunk to the level of shopping in Ikea?
sadtimes.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:59, Reply)

yo Wilf
Did you look up that Redemption Song cover? Wichita Lineman is fantastic as well.
(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:14, Reply)

I did not, thanks for reminding me.
Yes, I know.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 14:10, Reply)

you're gonna hate me
but I prefer the original, even thought hearing Cash and Strummer sing together gives me goosebumps.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 14:14, Reply)

Shit london awards
metro.co.uk/2012/12/10/from-ugliest-building-to-most-depressing-view-the-shit-london-awards-2012-winners-are-revealed-3309608/
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 12:58, Reply)

That's excellent.
My favourite:
metro.co.uk/2012/12/10/from-ugliest-building-to-most-depressing-view-the-shit-london-awards-2012-winners-are-revealed-3309608/gentrify/
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:06, Reply)

I like the Boris bike pigeon's
It probs won't sit well with naker's who had a bad experience with pigeon's over the weekend
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:08, Reply)

there was no poo involved

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:09, Reply)

This
www.b3ta.com/questions/offtopic/post1803669
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:11, Reply)

seriously though, I knocked it away with my hand and it came staright back like fat scabby hummingbird

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:14, Reply)

I knocked it away with my hand and it came staright back like fat scabby hummingbird. I ran screaming like a girl
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:19, Reply)

dude.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:19, Reply)

Fuck why does it keep adding more Strikethrough
Fucking strikethrough gods hate me
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:20, Reply)

You keep forgetting to close your tags.

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:25, Reply)

Ohhh That
Like i have a clue what that means
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:27, Reply)

Opening your tags <s> closing your tags </s> other useful tags you might want to play with are <pre></pre> <small></small><i></i> 

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:29, Reply)

I missed the slash in the ending
That makes sense now, it shows how productive my weekend was reduced to reading the FAQ's
( hartley hare Just some prick who thinks it doesn't apply to him, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:34, Reply)

Why didn't they just put up a satellite photo of London?

(Captain Placid 24/7 ball gags, brownie mix and clown porn, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:11, Reply)

Someone should do a new thread, I went and bought fags and I expected something else to have popped up.

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:25, Reply)

well, it didn't.
start your own thread.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:27, Reply)

Why do I have to do fucking everything :(

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:35, Reply)

quitting is going well then

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:28, Reply)

yepppp

(PsychoChomp, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:30, Reply)

Done

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:39, Reply)

oh you wanker

(quintsy, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:41, Reply)

I feel like a right hate-filled prick today
I can confirm that I ad some drugs on friday night for the first time in years though, and they were OK. I'll be joining monty by the bins later this week
(quintsy, Mon 10 Dec 2012, 13:40, Reply)