if you're rich it's not realy stupid to vote for the party that mostly supports the rich

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:42, 1 reply, 11 years ago)

If the only reason you vote for a particular political party is because of your financial position then you're stupid.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:44, Reply)

why? Life is all about self preservation firstly

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:45, Reply)

See below
It's a short termist view
(Bazongaloid, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:49, Reply)

no it's a bleeding heartist view

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:50, Reply)

neither battered nor al will be leaving anything to their kids
they'll be leaving the whole lot to help the masses, because that's fair
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:58, Reply)

i hope i get something nice

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:02, Reply)

I'm really going to have to get you a book that explains the difference beween communism and everything else.

(Bazongaloid, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:02, Reply)

socialism is watered down communism innit

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:04, Reply)

^ trolling

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:06, Reply)

in what way
it's all about taking from the rich to give to the poor/feckless
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:07, Reply)

There is a basic philosophical difference:
Communism = every individual gets according to their needs.
Socialism = every individual gets according to their contribution.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:11, Reply)

but who pays for it?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:12, Reply)

Socialism = every individual gets according to their contribution.
this doesn't make sense cos those that contribute the least get the most...
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:12, Reply)

Bollocks. Need versus deed.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:14, Reply)

and who pays for it?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:14, Reply)

All pay under every political system.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:17, Reply)

so, higher rate tax payers, then

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:18, Reply)

All tax payers.
Christ you really are stupid.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:19, Reply)

yeah but those that pay the least tax, take the most out of the system
hardly seems fair
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:21, Reply)

and what about those who don't pay tax?
are you going to let them starve?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:21, Reply)

he really is a cold hearted bastard

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:22, Reply)

well, according to him, they only get back what they put in
meanwhile, what's he going to give the 1% of tax payers who are paying 33% of the income tax paid in this country? a tax increase?
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:23, Reply)

FFS. Pretty much every political system recognises the need to support the most vulnerable.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:23, Reply)

They're pushing your buttons, mate.

( Kroney, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:24, Reply)

I know Nakers is. Swipe is just a fucking idiot.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:26, Reply)

Diplomacy forbids me from commenting.

( Kroney, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:26, Reply)

don't get that froth on your keyboard
the insurer won't cough up for another new laptop
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:28, Reply)

exactly vulnerable, the old, sick or retarded
not the lazy, thick and useless
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:24, Reply)

steady on
no need to make it personal to dozer
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:25, Reply)

Socialism = every individual gets according to their contribution.
but what if you've been unable to work and therefore to contribute? shame on you.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:25, Reply)

meaningless soundbite^

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:16, Reply)

The main difference between the ideologies is that Socialism allows for some free market economy and that each person is allotted resources according to how hard they work, and Communism seeks communal ownership of everything and that each person is allotted resources according to their need.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:17, Reply)

the clue is in the word "ideologies"

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:18, Reply)

Capitalism is also an ideology.

( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:20, Reply)

who's a capitalist?

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:26, Reply)

the labour government would LOVE to stop people inheriting stuff
more tax! more spending! more benefits! hoorah!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:04, Reply)

the worst taxes are
Inheritance tax
Stamp Duty
VAT
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:06, Reply)

CGT
can also be a kick in the cunt. well done, you were clever enough to invest in something. so we'll have a chunk of it to give to those who weren't, ta.

although non-stirring of the handwringers aside, i don't mind paying taxes, i just mind when it gets wasted on shite.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:09, Reply)

bollocks

(dozers, do fuck off ur a nob m8, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:10, Reply)

^ poor/feckless ^

( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:11, Reply)

lol

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:11, Reply)

you thoughts apart from "bollocks"?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:11, Reply)

You'd have loved the Eighties.

( Kroney, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:50, Reply)

I know :(

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:51, Reply)

I don't really understand people with no social conscience, Nakers.
This makes me sad, as I fear we could never really last.
( Kroney, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:53, Reply)

i'm charming enough to make up for it ;)

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:54, Reply)

No
You're selfish. The fact that you rationally make that decision to further your own interests at the expense of others doesn't necessarily make you stupid. Assuming of course you have factored in the fact that ultimately the selfish route will lead to someone bigger than you fucking you over, but it may be that you can feasibly see that not occurring for such a long time that in the short to medium term it's better to be a cunt and fuck other people over.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:48, Reply)

^utter bollocks

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:49, Reply)

Ladies and Gentlemen, the future of our great country.

(Bazongaloid, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:52, Reply)

Your "type" would be the first up against the wall.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:53, Reply)

for a bumming?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:54, Reply)

Once he was dead. Yes.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:55, Reply)

you are some kind of capitalist vigilante duck

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:56, Reply)

If the cap fits. I'll wear it.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:58, Reply)

*makes XXXXL hat that says CUNT*

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:59, Reply)

Calm down, carrot boy.
Isn't there some countryside somewhere that needs you?

Something something I ploughed your wife something furrow.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:02, Reply)

carrot boy?

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:03, Reply)

You are from the country = carrot.
You wear 32" waist trousers = small boy.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:15, Reply)

I was born in Hammersmith...

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:17, Reply)

Same same.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:19, Reply)

the hospital was basically a barn
and the mid wife was a shire horse
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:20, Reply)

TGGI^

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:50, Reply)

It is stupid to vote purely on the basis of money.
What about other things that can directly affect you, even if you're not concerned about others? Such as crime.
( Fucking hell Jeff I am not a robot, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:53, Reply)

If everyone is doing crime then stop bleating and get out there and get your fair share.

(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:55, Reply)

I hadn't really read your post properly
I'm really responding to nakers.
(Bazongaloid, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:55, Reply)

yeah but if you have money you can live somewhere with fuck all crime, plus you can afford the measures to protect yourself

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:55, Reply)

the problem with wanting to help "others"
is that they are all cunts. 99% of people are cunts.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:55, Reply)

i'm not
but don't scroll down from here ok?
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:56, Reply)

you're in the 99% now
it's OFFICIAL
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:57, Reply)

i'm as sad as a red setter trapped in a bin bag : (

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:58, Reply)

between that and the laughter at the drowned budgie/watery mallard bumming stuff...
... you MAYOR of the cunt zone right now!
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 12:59, Reply)

I'm just glad thee cunt zone has a strong Tory Mayor who's pro business and anti povvo

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:00, Reply)

it's weird how it's people who claim to have a social conscience
are happy to be cunts themselves. i mean, al is famous for his cuntishness. FAMOUS.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:03, Reply)

i'm barely conscience full stop

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Mon 12 May 2014, 13:05, Reply)