so they have a net benefit to the society then
they do their bit then pop their clogs
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:18, 1 reply, 10 years ago)

Parents could have 6 children who all depend their lives on benefits is not a greater contribution than someone working the majority of their life, and paying in.

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:22, Reply)

Luckily they barely exist.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:23, Reply)

I know, I know.
I'm not sure I like the point about having children is a benefit to society.
But that's probably because I don't have kids and spend my money on booze and frivolity, rather than nappies and school uniform.
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:27, Reply)

That is my point exactly

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:27, Reply)

Because in order for the model to work, you need sufficient young people in work to support those who have retired.
The 'looming pensions crisis' that has been talked about for such a long time is down to the fact that we are an ageing population.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:29, Reply)

so we should live fast and die young
woohoo
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:30, Reply)

It would help relieve some of the burden from the NHS.
Although I'm not sure you would still qualify for dying 'young'
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:31, Reply)

I am young and relevant

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:33, Reply)

Yes dear.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:34, Reply)

Fair enough.
But I don't think prescripting life style to a model is a good idea. Why is my choice to not have children seen as a bad decision because it doesn't fit the economic model? Seems a bit "do what you're told, peasant."
( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:32, Reply)

I'm all for a bit of nanny state.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:35, Reply)

Perv

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:47, Reply)

it's totally wrong and a disgusting thing to suggest
they should ban thick and ugly people from breeding instead.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:39, Reply)

Fortunately some of them self select.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:48, Reply)

HIYA
Oh hang on....
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:55, Reply)

I swear man, I should go down Jeremy Kyle auditions and clean up.
There's a lot of ugly and thick people there, but there are a few fitties.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:58, Reply)

I READ THE MAIL THEY ARE EVERYWHERE

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:27, Reply)

What I don't get is, these 'problem families' don't exist statisticlly apparently.
Yet you talk to pretty much anyone who works in the NHS or Job Centre, and they'll say thats all they deal with.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 13:57, Reply)

When you say you talk to, do you mean, those sound bites and quotes the newspapers use?

( Windy Pig I'm naturally quite suspicious about the moon., Wed 20 Aug 2014, 14:01, Reply)

i know a few of them
my cousin's family. shudder.

my friend's niece, 3 kids by the age of 21. her other niece, 2 kids by the age of 19, gave up the only job she'd ever had because she "hated the uniform", etc.
( rachelswipe with a fork, Wed 20 Aug 2014, 14:25, Reply)