Whilst I agree with you in general,
I do think that woman with the child was behaving awfully.
( Kroney, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:04, 4 replies, latest was 10 years ago)

This ^
In a situation where one person has multiple options of where and how to travel and the other is confined to one due to being a wheely they surely the person with no option gets preference
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:06, Reply)

In many ways being a new parent can be considered a disability.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:07, Reply)

Not in comparison to not having working legs.
Her placing her child being quiet for five minutes in the middle of all her self hate and sleep deprivation as more important than a wheelchair user being able to use the wheelchair area makes her a spastic and a dickhead. She ought to have been forcefully removed from the bus, been publicly whipped and had her child removed by Social Services.
( Kroney, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:15, Reply)

It would be better if she had been forced to wake her child and then all the other passengers could have spent the remainder of the journey tutting and judging her for not being able to stop it from screaming.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:18, Reply)

It was in a pushchair. Asleep.
Wheeling a pushchair is not a violent motion. She simply didn't want to move.
( Kroney, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:19, Reply)

I think you have misunderstood what was being asked of her.
In order for them all to travel on the bus, they wanted her to lift her child out of its pushchair and fold the chair down to be stored as luggage elsewhere.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:22, Reply)

Doesn't matter really.
She should have done so.
( Kroney, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:24, Reply)

I think she should have been made to kill and eat her baby
then recycle the push chair, but maybe I judge her harshly
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:26, Reply)

I saw an ace one the other day - a man in an expensive suit marching down the street pushing a pushchair.
When one bloke coming towards him didn't get out of the way fast enough, Suit shouted at him "I have a pram with a child in it, so get out of my way!"
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:28, Reply)

I would have kicked the child in eth face
to stop it becoming an arrogant prick like its father
(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:31, Reply)

i hate people like that.
The next fucking woman that tries to ram me with her pushchair will get me falling heavily on their fucking child. I hope I break the thing's leg.
( Kroney, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:31, Reply)

"I'm a functioning sociopath with heavy boots ... your call."

(old man river possible lesbian, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:31, Reply)

the ruling seems to be that there's currently no law against being a selfish dickwad

(old man river possible lesbian, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:10, Reply)

Unfortunately yeah

(Bonzodog29 is an unemployed sponge of the worst kind, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:12, Reply)

dunno ... there are so many ways to be a selfish dickwad ... not sure you can legislate against all of them

(old man river possible lesbian, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:16, Reply)

I would die to defend your right to be a selfish dickwad.

(Baggenfrock get fucked, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:13, Reply)

Was there an alternative space on the bus for the pram?
If not, I'd have probably have been a bit stubborn about it too.
( Muns, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:17, Reply)

It's the same space on most buses.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:18, Reply)

The wheelchair space is for wheelchairs. That's why it's called the wheelchair space.
Had it said "pushchair space for self-entitled cry babies" I might admit you had a point. But it didn't, so you don't.
( Kroney, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:19, Reply)

It's for both.
Or rather, one or the other.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:21, Reply)

No, it's specifically provided for wheelchair users.
Pushchairs are allowed to use it by convention.
( Kroney, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:26, Reply)

Not on new buses.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:27, Reply)

Dunno mate, not used a bus since I passed my test.

( Kroney, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:33, Reply)

You can no longer smoke on the top deck and all

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:39, Reply)

The buses I generally use have Wheelchair & Pushchair spaces.

Anyway, you could always argue that the baby was disabled on the basis that it was unable to walk or move any real distance under its own power. It's still a chair with wheels.

You'd have thought that a more experienced cripple would've realised that.
( Muns, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:24, Reply)

All I know is that legislation specifies "space for a wheelchair".
It doesn't mention pushchairs. In my opinion that means that a wheelchair trumps a pushchair.

In any case, common fucking decency requires that you get the fuck up and let the wheelchair guy use the damned space.
( Kroney, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:28, Reply)

My original point was that equality works in both directions
"if you want the rainbow, you gotta put up with the rain."
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:31, Reply)

As far as I'm concerned, the wheelchair is legally entitled to use that space and takes precedence
over some bloody woman that can't be fucked to move her fat arse and her ugly fucking baby.
( Kroney, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:32, Reply)

It doesn't though
That's what this ruling means.
( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:39, Reply)

Yer, I know.
They should have asked me to do the ruling.
( Kroney, Mon 8 Dec 2014, 12:42, Reply)