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( , Sun 1 Apr 2001, 1:00)
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I have a female friend who is a bit down at the moment, having lost a parent. She's unattached, and I know she's going to be alone on the 14th.
I would like to give/do something for her that says "I care about you as a friend" without in any way impying anything more, because I just don't want to go there.
As usual, I lack the empathatic gene that falls off when you get a Y chromosone, so I have no idea where to start. Suggestions please.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:03, 41 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Trust me, with women any little gift would be very much appreciated as it's the sentiment that's important. Just give a card with the gift explaining your desire just to cheer her up a bit and feel loved.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:07, Reply)

or failing that, nothing says friendship like a bag of shaved weasels
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:11, Reply)

i did that, platonic friend freaked out thinking i was hitting on her, all went to shit, much stress hassle and grief later we are no longer communicating.
Take her out and get her drunk, get here a dvd or album of her favourite band but don't for the love of god buy anything valentines related
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:19, Reply)

Put together a smallish picnic-type bunch of food, some wine, some chocolate and some flowers (NOT roses) and bring it to her with the card BGB suggested. That should give her the warm fuzzies without feeling that you're trying to bed her. It shows that you care (you're feeding her) but that you're being platonic (not staying around to eat it with her).
It's a damned fine line to tread, though. Good luck.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:20, Reply)

I think trying to do it on Valentine's Day may run the risk of sending the wrong signals...
Good idea in principle but I'd think about the timing.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:24, Reply)

...it could go hideously wrong if it's misconstrued.
By all means invite her out for a boozy pub night or something though.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:27, Reply)

I bloody wish some of my male friends in the past had done the same thing.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:29, Reply)

...have been there done that and suffered for it.
I'm not suggesting he ignores her on the day though, going out on the lash or doing something fun is an excellent plan. Very noble too.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:31, Reply)

"Do you want to go out and get pissed on saturday whilst sneering at smug loved-up fucks?"
Should make matters nice and clear.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:33, Reply)

forgot to mention the small but important detail that we live about 1000 miles apart, so it will be a "gift and a card through the post" rather than a personal delivery. I just need something with a "care about you" factor of 100 and a "trying to get into your knickers" factor of 0.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:38, Reply)

what you are asking there is:
"How could a woman take something a man does the wrong way, even if he says otherwise?"
I invite you to consider that remark while us men guffaw at how silly you are :-)
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:39, Reply)

There is nothing that says I just want to be your friend more than the fact that you live 1000 miles apart.
@Vipros - maybe you're all meeting the wrong women.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:41, Reply)

...there needs to be some kind of Intabooza.
Say it with a bottle of scotch.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:42, Reply)

1000 miles eh? that makes it trickier.
A bottle of plonk and an order to open it at a certain time, then you can get long distance drunk together and text utter bollocks, it surprisingly does work to cheer people up!
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:45, Reply)

Food is always good. Get some good chocolate to send, some posh biscuits (as BGB calls them, fancy cookies to the rest of the world), and a few other foodstuffs and mail 'em with a card. More than likely FTD has a pre-selected gift basket you can have sent.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:47, Reply)

That way when she is down she can use it as a comfort blanket.
Also peeling off your own skin really shows that you care and by being horribly disfigured she won't want to go out with you.
Win - Win
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:49, Reply)

I think food/chocolate is probably the best idea, with a jaunty card. I quite like the "having a drink over messenger" idea too.
BTW I call them biscuits too. And what is FTD?
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:53, Reply)

hotel chocolat for nice chocs - you can't go wrong with their stuff, and they normally have a wide selection of non-seasonal gifts (i.e. not pink). Plus, a card saying you care about her as a friend - that should make anyone feel nice.
Although if she is a really close friend and you have some in-jokes (like films you both like, or a song you both enjoy), then that could be a good route to go down
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:54, Reply)

BGB: I love my other half to bits. Couldn't imagine anyone better. and yet she still manages to take things the wrong way, even when I explain otherwise!
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 15:55, Reply)

It must just be me then. I'm missing the 'I don't believe you meant it that way' gene.
I'm defected : (
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 16:02, Reply)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH!
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 16:07, Reply)

www.ftd.com/
It may be an American company, though- I don't know if they deliver over there. But I'm sure you have something similar...
@BGB: here's a sample of what Vipros was talking about: wilk4.com/humor/humorm238.htm
I find that often women are so used to doing this sort of doublespeak that they automatically assume that men are doing the same, so the slightest offhand remark can get twisted into something truly awful on the path from his mouth to her brain. The fact that you don't do this speaks volumes in your favor.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 16:08, Reply)

send her something to get there the day before or the day after, like a book, dvd etc, then ring her on the day?
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 16:18, Reply)

If we say something that can interpreted in two ways then we meant it the nice way.
End of story, now get back in the kitchen.*
*where I prepared some cookies, please don't leave me I don't know how to dress myself
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 16:19, Reply)

you must be a refreshing person to be around!
@Baz: silence, you filthy pervert
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 16:37, Reply)

I'm thinking of getting a half dozen roses sent to her work,
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 16:44, Reply)

And i sent her a picture of my erect cock and her name written down the side. It worked. She's been planning how to reply for over 7 years now, not heard much but I'm fairly sure that whatever she comes up with will be amazing.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 16:51, Reply)

What about a lovely parcel consisting of lots of lovely things to unwrap like: a mix tape, big bag of Haribo sweets, copy of Cosmo, packet of cigs (if she's a smoker, obviously not if she's not), a scratchcard, a bath bomb from Lush and one of those Edward Monkton books about how ace it is to be friends or something like that.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 16:58, Reply)

a mixtape is strictly for panty invasion.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 17:13, Reply)

I usually send something from doughdough.com but they're looking a bit sickly this year. How about proposing a non-valentines day and hang out together getting drunk with no ulterior motive?
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 17:20, Reply)

Chocolate could be viewed as being more romantic, whereas normal sweets could be more lighthearted and friendly
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 17:20, Reply)

Or some kind of muffin abomination?
For there are some places a true Englishman would never go.
( , Tue 10 Feb 2009, 23:57, Reply)

a good book. I know it might not sound exciting, but a nice feel good story will cheer anyone up. Also, she won't see any romantic connection. Sorry it's a boring suggestion, but that's what I would like. Then again, I'm a bloke, so I'm probably wrong
( , Wed 11 Feb 2009, 4:11, Reply)

...sending her a link to this thread, asking her what she would choose.
I can't think of a better way of showing your real, true, unambiguous feelings and getting it right.
( , Wed 11 Feb 2009, 10:41, Reply)
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