A bit excessive
my mate has been sent to a lovely hotel-type establishment operated by the government. He now gets free board and meals. This type of place is commonly known as a prison.

His crime: 5 wraps of heroin (0.5grams in total), and 5 rocks of crack.

Fair play, he really shouldn't have been doing such things but as addicts do, he shifted a bit in order to get his own stuff cheaper/ free and got caught.

This was his 1st offence, his 1st time in trouble with the police and he got 4 years!!!

A tad harsh?

EDIT: Yup, a prison sentence is deserved but I think the term is a bit excessive.
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:01, 32 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Not really,
You do the crime, you get caught, you deserve it.
( Cawl, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:03, Reply)

Agreed
.
(CaptainInnuendo One mouthful contains all your vitamin C needs., Tue 12 May 2009, 14:05, Reply)

*nods*
Although if you commit a crime and get away with it, that's fair game.
( Cawl, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:06, Reply)

Effectively, he deals hard drugs?
Four years sounds about right to me. Smack and crack are two drugs which can properly fuck you up.

/cousin died from heroin overdose
( Noeli overtheshoulderboulderholderthingstraplatchboobs, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:03, Reply)

also
everybody's metabolism is different. For example what your mate may have dealt spikey - would have only been enouhg to get one person stoned, but for someone like myself, someone who is very easily and very quickly affected by any drugs (and I've proved this multiple times with alcohol, marijuana, codeine), it could very well be an overdose that kills them.

You don't know what the drugs are cut with unless you make them yourself. Therefore every drug is potentially able to kill someone.

I agree with no3l.
(Poppet some assembly required., Tue 12 May 2009, 14:06, Reply)

After 3-5 days, the smack has left your system.
Any urge to have it is purely phsycological.

That's why a lot of smackheads can (for example) get knocked up for 3 days, go to score, and overdose on what was their usual amount.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:10, Reply)

Only 3 days?
72-hour pill?

Or did you mean banged up?
(wellgroomedwookiee is a filthy-minded hobgoblin, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:20, Reply)

Oh, yeah', banged up.
My street slang isn't what it used to be =(
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:26, Reply)

I agree
that he should be made to pay, and a custodial sentence was the right sentence to pass, but 4 years?

I would have thought 2 would be more appropriate.
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:05, Reply)

He was dealing
in the top grade drugs, which not only contribute to deaths and the destruction of peoples lives, it also leads to addicts committing crimes towards innocent parties.
(CaptainInnuendo One mouthful contains all your vitamin C needs., Tue 12 May 2009, 14:06, Reply)

A fair point
And I agree completely - he was a twat and deserves to be punished.
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:08, Reply)

This may be because you're comparing his sentence with the sentences for crimes you consider to be more serious.
But most of those sentences aren't long enough.
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:08, Reply)

Nail hits head
Thanks, I think that maybe exactly my line of thinking.

I'm a little sad as, although he was knocking out some of the most evil shit in the world, he was always a good friend and has been for 15years.
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:10, Reply)

Of course.
No need to knock the friendship on the head just yet though, is there? Maybe you can dislike the crime but still like him?
( thealternativefact, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:12, Reply)

We'll always be mates
and he knows that.
( SpikeyPickle wishes he was mabazaritchie, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:20, Reply)

Good news.

( thealternativefact, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:21, Reply)

Will you visit him?
His time inside will probably be very bad.
(Eds Meds Mathskillz=1,Socialskillz=0, Tue 12 May 2009, 15:12, Reply)

I must admit
If you feel the need to murder someone, you run them over. Pathetic sentences like 18 months - 2 years isn't uncommon in such circumstances unfortunately.
(CaptainInnuendo One mouthful contains all your vitamin C needs., Tue 12 May 2009, 14:11, Reply)

*bears this in mind*

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:12, Reply)

No bears
here.
(CaptainInnuendo One mouthful contains all your vitamin C needs., Tue 12 May 2009, 14:13, Reply)

Yup, I think if you're dangerous, or intoxicated, driving, and someone gets killed,
It should be Manslaughter at least.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:16, Reply)

Agree Clenders
Most sentences aren't long enough, and some conditions seem quite arbitrary.

/sees this every day
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:52, Reply)

2 years
plus a compulsory treatment order, perhaps?

The guy sounds like as much of a victim as his customers
( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:15, Reply)

I think he should be given an OBE
or a knighthood or something.

Drugs are fun - if they kill you, tough shit.
You know that when you put them in you.
If you dont know that, tough shit - you probably deserved to die.

I do drugs.
I've sold drugs.
I've a cousin who is going to die of drugs.

It doesnt make any difference to me.

rafter
baz
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:29, Reply)

You're so edgy and cool, can you make me edgy and cool?

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:34, Reply)

yes, just give me all your money and take these pills.
Then you will have lots of friends and girls will want to do teh sex on you.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:38, Reply)

OH BOY !

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:43, Reply)

Well...
Considering that the penalty in a Crown court for possession / supply/intent of class As is life / an unlimited fine I'd say no, it's not a harsh penalty.

Even possession of class A on its own is a max of 7 years, so again, he's not been massively done.

Sorry to sound like a dick but that's how I see it :/
(b3tamax Mate, you're fat and I'll throw you in the river, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:38, Reply)

He should be fed to the lions
and then imprisoned.

It's only fair.
( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 12 May 2009, 14:59, Reply)

but what if the lions accidentally get high on his stash?
then he'll have the animal rights people onto him as well.

Nightmare.
(bazmorningstar efil4nat3b, Tue 12 May 2009, 15:04, Reply)

Nah horse just turns lions into mecha-lions
we'll be good.
( Undulating Tentacles of Love getting fun down to acceptable levels, Tue 12 May 2009, 15:15, Reply)

Addict
What do we do with addicts?

Yep, we put them in a place with lots of other addicts - where hard drugs are easier to get than on the outside.

simples...

I just think that prison isn't the best solution to addiction.

As per usual Rabbit knows what he doesn't want - but doesn't have a clue about what he does want!

I guess a length gag would inappropriate here
(CheatingRabbit, Wed 13 May 2009, 7:48, Reply)