I want a new car
I want one that gets at least 60mpg and runs on diesel. How much do I need to spend to get this?
(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:04, 3 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

200

( Lisette von Falcon, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:07, Reply)

dunno,
plenty I suppose but not in the £10s of thousands.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:11, Reply)

It doesn't have to be "new" new,
But I wouldn't be averse to a new car since I won't be trading it in.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:12, Reply)

my car gets 60mpg if you drive it sensibly
it's a nice drive too, and was cheap. probably older than you want though.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:14, Reply)

Is it better than an 11 year old 106?
I want one that's comfy for long journeys as I drive a lot. A tape deck would be a bonus, but air con is essential. And it needs to be Diesel.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:15, Reply)

I've got a Seat Toledo SE TDi
it's 1.9l diesel saloon, 110bhp. very comfortable, got climate control, cruise control, tape deck and cd multichanger, all electric windows etc.

it's a W reg, cost me about £3800 when it had about 60k miles on it.

I'd highly recommend one. it really is very comfortable for long journeys. solidly built because it's all vw and audi bits.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:26, Reply)

For about £6,000ish
You could get an old Seat Ibiza 1.9 TDi FR. They're lovely cars, reliable, fast where it counts e.g. 40mph to 60mph for overtaking etc and they're built on a Golf chassis so they're solid! :)
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:23, Reply)

Hmmmm
that's interesting. I was thinking of a Toyota as they're dead reliable. How are Seats for reliability?
(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:25, Reply)

very good
because they are essentially VWs. The FR ones are pretty quick too.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:26, Reply)

Indeedy doo! :D
That's the thing with Skodas and Seats these days, you're basically buying a VW without the badge and added cost. The build quality is very high! :)
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:28, Reply)

yep
the electrics can be slightly temperamental in my Seat, but they haven't been for a while, and it has been knocked about a bit.

it's got a fucking huge boot as well. last weekend I had 2 guitars in hardcases, 2 guitars in softcases, an electric bass, my amp, a 4 man tent, a snare drum, two bags of leads and a case full of cymbals in there.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:30, Reply)

Wow that's a BIG boot!
Even in my Ibiza I managed to get a hell of a lot of stuff in the back. The biggest thing was probably a german shepherd!! Haha
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:33, Reply)

it's only let down by the size of the boot opening
which is absurd in comparison to the size of the boot. stupid saloon cars.

I'm going to get a van when this one dies. and some kind of convertible sports car.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:34, Reply)

Hmmm that is rather strange?
A van would be a very good idea if you're lugging around band equipment!!

I have to say I've never been that bothered about convertibles, theres never enough sodding sun in this country to make it worthwhile. :(
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:37, Reply)

I've recently been converted (ho ho)
my drummer has one, and so does my bro's gf. my view is: not raining = top down

the van is more for sleeping in as we go camping a lot. I plan to build a bedframe in it, and put in a stupidly expensive mattress like the one in my bedroom
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:41, Reply)

Camping eh?
Have you seen these...

www.subarusambar.co.uk

They look so fun, I really want one! :)
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:43, Reply)

yeah, saw one at the beach a few weeks back
I thought some guy had done it himself!

I'm going to get a standard VW transporter and stick in what I want. I don't need a cooker or any of that bollocks
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:45, Reply)

Nope, its some crazy thing that Subaru have made!
Ah doing it the proper way with a real VW would be cool. I really got excited a few years ago when they brought out a new concept camper van, but it never turned into anything, I was gutted as it looked a-mazing!
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:47, Reply)

VW do a few of their own conversions these days
the dad of my brother's mate designed and makes the moulded interiors for them, and the seats that turn into beds and stuff.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:52, Reply)

What kind of mattress do you have?
we need a new one and I want a really solid one.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:47, Reply)

I think it's made by slumberland or something
it's got twice as many springs as a normal mattress and a layer of memory foam.

I've had it for about 3 years, and this is no word of a lie, almost every night we get into it and go "man, this bed is so comfortable"
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:50, Reply)

Are you and your missus running out of things to say to each other?

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:51, Reply)

no, that's just how comfortable the bed is

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:52, Reply)

It's the equivalent of
"Weather was nice today dear wasn't it"
(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:54, Reply)

it's not
because the bed is so damn comfortable :-P
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:55, Reply)

Stop getting so defensive,
I'm sure you've still got that "spark" in your relationship.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:56, Reply)

you're just jealous
because you don't think the right man for you is out there.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:56, Reply)

I read that as soiled,

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:50, Reply)

Hahahahah
Me too, I just assumed as much seeing as it was Al!
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:51, Reply)

you would

(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:52, Reply)

Are you sure the biggest thing wasn't DiT's penis

(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:36, Reply)

But I don't
keep him in the boot??!
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:38, Reply)

That explains a lot.
Time to start acting like a wife, young lady.
( thealternativefact, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:42, Reply)

I'm trying, I'm trying
but its difficult to be mean to him... he makes very good pie!!
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:43, Reply)

When confused by any of al's posts
assume he's making an anal sex joke.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:45, Reply)

Ahhhhh
Noted.
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:47, Reply)

I wasn't actually
well, not deliberately, but it was quite a good one.
(Bazongaloid, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:51, Reply)

I personally would have made more use of the german shepherd mentioned in her original post.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:52, Reply)

Dirty dog-shagger

( thealternativefact, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:54, Reply)

Don't help him!!!

(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:55, Reply)

If I don't make him funnier who will?

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:56, Reply)

Haaaaahahahaha
I like that you think you can.
( thealternativefact, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:59, Reply)

Ooooh
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 17:02, Reply)

not a good choice of phrase there
dog-shagger
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:56, Reply)

I ALREADY SED THIS

( thealternativefact, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:57, Reply)

I know
I was adding emphasis
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:58, Reply)

Oh.

( thealternativefact, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:59, Reply)

When confused by any of al's posts
(bamboozled Can hear you getting fatter, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:53, Reply)

please try again later.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:56, Reply)

Toyotas are reliable
but they charge a lot more because of the reliability! Seats are super. I never had a problem with mine and my sister has had three and they've all lasted very well and she drives like a mental person.
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 16:27, Reply)

Hmmm
The VW reliability myth strikes again. If you look at real-world statistics, the reality is that VW are in the lower-half of the pile reliability-wise, and certainly a great deal lower than the Japanese makes and Ford (who are surprisingly very good)

My choice if I was in the market for a 60mpg motor would be a Ford Focus. No question. I easily got that from the one I ran for a few weeks between insurance relacement cars.
( rubberduck should only be used after consulting with your GP, Tue 8 Sep 2009, 18:51, Reply)

Nah not a Focus!!
You're correct about the mpg being good but the build quality is shocking. I used to work for Ford too so I know a little bit about their mechanics, they spend more time scratching their asses with spanners and creating weird shit out of various car parts by gluing them together than they do fixing the actual cars. What I have learnt from working for Ford is to NEVER buy one and if you do own one, NEVER get it serviced by a Ford mechanic!
(Flim-Flam the Magnificent "You is talking loco and I like it!", Tue 8 Sep 2009, 19:31, Reply)

I work
Directly for a motor manufacturer (not Ford!) in product development. I can say with absolute certainty that Ford are streets ahead of other European manufacturers when it comes to actual quality of engineering and reliability. VW group cars have a high perceived quality due to the nice materials used in the cabin and trim, but the mechanical bits are well below-par.

Don't confuse the quality of a manufacturer with the quality of one of its dealers (the manufacturers don't own the dealers). In terms of dealers, you'll get good ones and bad ones regardless of which manufacturer it franchises.
( rubberduck should only be used after consulting with your GP, Wed 9 Sep 2009, 6:56, Reply)