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I plowed through the Dune novels a few years ago and it put me off sci fi. I think i'm ready to return.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 14:41, Reply)
Mostly a ton of short stories, then a few novels woven between/after them (Ringworld, Fleet of Worlds), well worth tracking down the short story books first though (Tales of Known Space is a good start, and the easiest to find)
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 14:44, Reply)
it's a relatively slim volume and is not in-your face-terminology and stuff
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 14:44, Reply)
£1.67 second hand from a Play.com market seller, so it's probably in a shocking state. I dont mind as long as it has all the pages.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 14:53, Reply)
I've had ones from amazon marketplace that have cost me 1p and have been indistinguishable from brand new ones in the same order.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 14:55, Reply)
I agree, some look brand spanking new.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 14:58, Reply)
Its a really good place to find the slightly obscure stuff, plus once you get enough, the amazon recommendations system actually throws out some pretty good stuff (until you ruin it all by getting duct tape online because you're too lazy to go into town, speaking of which, I should have gone food shopping about an hour ago, laters all)
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:02, Reply)
I try to only use the supermarket for things I have to get there*, plus big sainsburys is a trek and a half (from LMH)
*because I'm just a little bit middle class
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:06, Reply)
but I never remember to shop properly there
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:11, Reply)
due to the heat
The deli I wanted to investigate apparently closed a while ago
Gave up and went to little sainsburys and got a big carton of apple juice which i've nearly finished already
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 16:13, Reply)
them. Or at least, I liked the first two; I haven't read any of the others. Why'd you think they were so bad?
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 14:45, Reply)
But the series suffers from the rule that no series is ever good after the 4th book
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 14:46, Reply)
and about how books finished by someone other than the original author are usually rubbish.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 14:52, Reply)
I actually had dreams about being on Dune. Next 2 were ok, but the last 3 were inpenetrable.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 14:51, Reply)
i'm not a massive sci-fi fan, but a good book is always welcome regardless of genre.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:07, Reply)
I second Vipros recommendation of Gateway, any of the Robot books by Asimov, short stories by Philip K Dick (he excels in short stories rather than books) David Brin for funny quirky looks at the subject, for a more literary take on the whole angle then read Kazuo Ishiguro's 'Never Let me Go,' A Canticle for Leibowitz for the same thing, and the whole 'Book of the New Sun' by Gene Wolfe
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:19, Reply)
I read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" about 20 y/o. I enjoyed it but it's one of the few books I have read where I prefer the film.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:25, Reply)
But I wouldn't really recommend it as a reintroduction to sci-fi, you need to know a few futuristic concepts to work out what's really going on at a lot of points (like the discussions on the original purpose of Spearpoint).
Actually, the same goes for all of his work, utterly fantastic, but definitely not a gentle introduction to science fiction.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 14:56, Reply)
is like that though, can be quite tough going, still think the Iain M Banks books are the pinnacle of any sci-fi though, the Culture is just one of those creations of total glory
I would recommend a lot of Ken Macleod stuff too.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:02, Reply)
the long unpronouncable names put me off a bit, "amistratoff-Skiramtopf" or whatever the robot was called...
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:08, Reply)
player of games is the fucking business
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:09, Reply)
we agree on something! Player of Games is so often read and re-read and re-read that the poor book is battered and threadbare, I must read that at least once a year without fail!
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:11, Reply)
it was my first iain m banks book, and is still my favourite
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:12, Reply)
with Consider Phlebas, which in itself is an astounding book, Use of Weapons grew on me after the third read, it starts to make much more sense.
Still haven't finished Feersum Enjinn though, I can't read the damn thing it makes my head hurt
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:16, Reply)
feersum enjin was a pain in the arse.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:17, Reply)
Excession is a book I dig out if blue, the Affornt are brilliant! even better than Ashers Prador
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:20, Reply)
with sci-fi its all about the feel of it, if the whole universe and stuff feels ok you can embrace and read it without any problem at all.
Sometimes however if something grates I simply cannot read it, that Peter F Hamilton trilogy where it starts off absolutey brilliant, then when he brings in the 1930's gangsters and loads of Elvis's it annoyed me so much I threw the book away!
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:14, Reply)
my mate has been pestering me to do so for ages, and I have given in to shut him up. I'd read the previous ones, and the trilogy you talk about and they were pretty average sci fi I'd say. This new one is the biggest fucking book in the world though. I swear it weighs about 5 fucking kilos.
My mate thinks it is the best book he's ever read. I recently came to the conclusion that this is because he is immature.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:19, Reply)
really liking Asher & Macleod at the moment, Adam Roberts stuff is clever but sometimes makes my head hurt, not instantly accessible, the Takeshi Kovacs books of course are ace for mindless daft space punk violence
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:22, Reply)
when you're recommended a book and don't enjoy it. I got told by a friend that I simply must read Robert Jordan, and found it quite awkward to say I didn't want to borrow the rest of the books because they were a bit dire.
I think I've done that to Larry Vest with Robin Hobb though
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:28, Reply)
and have been intending to recap and finish the series, however, I did also like David Eddings in the past and I can't bear to read his stuff any more because it was tripe.
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:33, Reply)
I gave up and almost lost the will to live at book 6.
Luckily I work with two guys with similar but ever so slightly different tastes book wise so we are always lending each other new and different stuff, can be hit or miss but more hits so far.
Not really got the classics apart from a shelf full of Asimov and the 70's stuff from Moorcock at his peak
(, Mon 24 May 2010, 15:35, Reply)
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