I'm hold right now to the electricity company for my tenanted flat
I paid my outstanding bill yesterday for when the property was empty, but when I told Wiggy he called me an idiot and pointed out that they were basing the payment on estimated readings and since it had been empty I would have overpaid.

So I rang them back today to get a refund and they've told me my name isn't on the account and they won't speak to me. The name they have is one letter different to my real name, but they won't speak to me so I said I wanted a refund for the £180 I paid yesterday. They refused and told me to take it up with my bank. I did that and the bank said it's already gone out.

I'm now on hold with the leccy company again. I've got a much more helpful bloke this time though, so fingers crossed.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:00, 1 reply, 16 years ago)

yay it's sorted now so I'm all calm and serene again
They've changed the name on the account and will refund me £176 of the amount I paid yesterday :D

JOY
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:05, Reply)

good work
you should give some of the money to me
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:05, Reply)

Put it towards the Smug Croissant fund
Maybe it'll help you buy that patisserie galley you've had your eye on?
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:06, Reply)

I'd be more likely to put it towards replacing my mouldy weed.
I'm going on about it, because I'm so fucking bored today
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:08, Reply)

you might have got an awesome new strain
smoke it and see.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:10, Reply)

I also may end up with a deadly lung infection

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:12, Reply)

if you're not living on the edge
YOU'RE TAKING UP TOO MUCH ROOM
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:13, Reply)

true
but I'm already paranoid about it, and I haven't smoked any yet
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:16, Reply)

IRONYLOLZ

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:29, Reply)

fortunately I think there is some more about at the moment
so can get some more tonight.

I feel like a right fucking junkie, but not being able to sleep feels a lot worse.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:41, Reply)

^ this
if I could find a surefire way to get to sleep, I'd be on it like a shot and not caring about junkiness
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:52, Reply)

that's my view.
not sleeping is shit, so I don't like running out of gear, and to find that I have essentially run out unexpectedly, particularly when I'm as skint as I have been since leaving uni has not done my mental state any good at all.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:57, Reply)

I think you should take my advice
as to how to spend your bank holiday.

And I do understand. My mother takes sleeping pills to get to sleep (they work for her) and even though she's not addicted, and only takes them rarely, she still gets quite anxious if she runs out.
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:59, Reply)

I will certainly do some drinking this weekend
it's more the next few days and those after the weekend that concern me. My sleeping has been unpredictable of late.

I don't want to resort to sleeping pills if I can avoid it. Think I should get hold of some valerian extract and see how I get on with that again.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:01, Reply)

Do you have trouble staying asleep
as well as getting to sleep?

Valerian extract is shit (tried it) sleeping pills vary in effectiveness. Some of them will get you to sleep but not keep you asleep, and others result in heavy oversleeping. A lot of brands don't work on me, the only one that does caused some pretty nasty side effects
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:07, Reply)

almost entirely just getting to sleep
the ones I've had in the past, I passed out at 8pm and didn't wake up till 3pm the next day. Can't be having that.

I've used a couple of preparations of valerian extract, one worked fine, and the other didn't at all.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:11, Reply)

if you try sleeping tablets
you'd be best off just taking a half, then staying awake as long as you can manage it. Of the two types my mother has, one is designed specifically as a sleep aid to help you get to sleep, but does not maintain sleep, would you like me to source the name? You should wake up fine after it, but probably earlier than usual
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:16, Reply)

yeah, if you could I'd be grateful

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:29, Reply)

gazzed

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:42, Reply)

I'm having a deathly dull day
All the scripts I'm running seem to be taking forever, and I can't stop yawning.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:10, Reply)

yeah I'm not going to do that
I'm going to put it towards my empire, which will benefit you eventually.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:10, Reply)

fair enoguh

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:12, Reply)

I hope I'm a millionairess quickly enough to invest in Noel's walking thing
I'm going to be philanthropist as well (that's the giving one right, not the womanising one?)
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:15, Reply)

You can be both if you like

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:16, Reply)

the philandering philanthropist

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:19, Reply)

I might change my name to Phil as well

( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:28, Reply)

So you've only paid £4 for 6 months?

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:05, Reply)

it was 3 months
and the property was empty with electricity switched off.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:10, Reply)

Fair enough then
And I agree with Wiggy, you're stupid for having paid the estimate.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:11, Reply)

shurrup
mean boys.

He even managed an I told you so in replying to my email of woe. He's not seeing a dime of this money now.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:14, Reply)

He's stupid for that last bit

( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:16, Reply)

haha if he read this he would disagree
I cost him soooo much money. Like soooooooooo much money. Like thousands.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:19, Reply)

You do?
Then he's even stupiderer for putting you in a position where you can legitimately not give him any of the bonus cash.

Girlfriends are expensive. FACT.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:23, Reply)

We are.
He was lamenting how much trouble I am just the other day because of the following things:

1. He gave me his only key to the side gate of our flat and I lost it
2. He asked me to pick up his suit from the dry cleaners on Saturday that he needed for work Monday morning. I forgot.
3. I put a box on top of his car and when I lifted it off it scratched the roof.

This was all in a day's work for me.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:26, Reply)

Nice work
My GF was indirectly responsible for having my car broken into, and constantly spends her pay cheque on clothes and shoes (dragging me around the shops in the process), then doesn't have enough at the end of the month to pay for her share of food.

She owes me quite a bit actually, I doubt I'll ever see it though.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:29, Reply)

fortunately Mrs V is good with money
and earns quite a bit.

more smuggery!
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:32, Reply)

I'm still riding the high
Of looking damn smart on Monday.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:34, Reply)

good lad

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:50, Reply)

I don't spend mine on frivolous things
I've been paying for two flats for the last three months so I've been really skint. And I put quite a bit into my corset business to try and get it off the ground, plus I'm still paying for credit card mistakes. Wiggy says it's ok though because he earns a lot more than I do and he likes treating me. We split the bills 50/50 but when it comes to going out and stuff he tends to get the drinks and dinner.

He also buys me gifts that he knows I need but don't want to spend the money on, just yesterday he bought me a pink calculator because he saw me having to use my phone to work shit out.

Sorry, I'll stop wittering on about him now.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:35, Reply)

That's lovely of him, he's not stupid.
I wouldn't mind doing the same in that situation, it's when Em does something like buying a Wii off a friend, despite not having a tv at her place, and in doing so not be able to afford to pay me back for previous loans that I get a little peeved.
She's hot though. Like, really hot.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:38, Reply)

A word of advice Lab, you need to talk to her about this.
Being hot is no excuse. If you let her get away with it, things will only get worse. She needs to become accountable for her spending.
(Reverend Fister "a disciplined fuckwit", Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:44, Reply)

Already done so
And she's improving. It helps that I've confiscated her store discount card. We're going on holiday together this weekend, and I've told her she's to be on best behaviour, money wise.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:45, Reply)

what I wanted to say right there
money can be a serious problem, because after a while it just becomes too big to talk about and the fallout can be immense, one person feeling aggrieved and wronged, and the other not really seeing a problem because it's gone on too long to be unusual

edit: haha that sounded all self righteous. Sorry, and glad it's something you've already got to grips with
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:45, Reply)

Sadly, I'm aware of this
She barely earns anything, but equally has very little in terms of monthly bills, because she lives with her parents. I'm trying to help her get better with money, but it's a slow process (not helped by me not being particularly great with money...).
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:47, Reply)

a few of my mate-couples argue about money a lot
it took a while but me and Mrs V have a joint account which we pay salaries into and everything comes out of there. We keep back some for ourselves to buy random shit that we want, or to save for stuff, but generally everything is lumped in together.

Makes life a lot easier than taking it in turns to buy shopping, or splitting the bill afterwards, and we end up better off for some reason.

Not entirely sure why more people don't do it, other than they have a much bigger difference between their salaries....
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:49, Reply)

that's the best way
but your salaries seem a lot closer together than Labs + missus.

Luckily I've never been in a relationship so serious that money became an issue in any way, but more than a few of my friends have got really tangled up in various ways over it
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:51, Reply)

I think that's the key to it
I'm on a bit more, but my student loan payments and stuff are more, so I get maybe a couple of hundred more than her a month, but as they are close it's not an issue to combine it and half it
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:55, Reply)

I earn quite a bit more than Em does
Although after bills/rent/credit cards/loan/car etc, we end up with roughly the same in spending money. She will happily spend £100-300 a month on clothes and shoes, whereas I'm trying to save for things like holiday and tattoos.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:52, Reply)

that's the situation with my mates too I think

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:55, Reply)

It's not good, but not insurmountable
I'm just glad she doesn't have an overdraft or credit card, she'd make the same mistakes I did and rack up a hefty chunk of debt.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:57, Reply)

that is a mercy
I'm pretty glad that we don't argue about it. With any luck Mrs V's payrise should be coming soon too.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:58, Reply)

Sounds perfect mate
I'm happy for you :)
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:01, Reply)

I mainly want her hard work in getting chartered to be rewarded
extra cash (which will go entirely towards the wedding) will be a pelasant bonus
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:09, Reply)

I did that with The Idiot
it just meant he helped himself to cash to pay for Games Workshop crap and beers (and train fares to see his other girlfriends), while I desperately counted the pennies to try and stop us going overdrawn again.

Didn't help that he always lied about what he spent
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:53, Reply)

I think you were just unfortunate that he was a wanker

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:54, Reply)

well it does mean I won't trust anyone
every again.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:54, Reply)

it's a real shame that there are tossers out there who will ruin things for people
:-(
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:56, Reply)

Should have shoved some elves up his arse.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:57, Reply)

he'd have liked that :(

( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:02, Reply)

Mark and I have a big difference in salaries
What we do is that each of us gets the salary in our single accounts, but we have a direct debit into our joint account for every month. Everything that is shared comes from there, but if he wants to spend £100 on a night out or buy shit loads of music, he pays for that himself.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:58, Reply)

same principle as how we operate
but I totally don't have enough money to blow £100 on a night out
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:59, Reply)

I don't either
That's why we decided to do it like that. We started just sharing, until I realised how much money we were spending. Now I pay my drinks, unless he wants to invite me, and he pays his.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:09, Reply)

yeah that's what Wiggy and I do
I told him it'll all pay off when I'm a millionairess.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:03, Reply)

I tell Mark the same
for when I win the lottery.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:09, Reply)

Me and Wiggy each pay an equal amount into the joint account
to cover all the bills and about £200 for food and householdy stuff.

My parents said they thought we should pay a percentage of the bills corresponding to how much we each earn but Wiggy and I both agreed that we'd rather pay equal amounts in bills and then the other stuff is like a treat.
( Kitty v1.0 desperately naive, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:02, Reply)

I think bills and rent etc should always be a 50/50 split
Apart from in certain circumstances, like one of them's laid off work. I'm all about equality.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:04, Reply)

I'm an egalitarian Jew*
It makes things difficult sometimes.


*Not really, but try telling my flatmate this.
( Lampito rise with the moon, go to bed with the sun, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:09, Reply)

I agree with you
I rather do that and have Mark to treat me from time to time than paying less and feeling like I'm living thanks to him.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:10, Reply)

And I'm more than happy to treat a girlfriend
So long as they don't come to expect it or demand it.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:14, Reply)

Of course not
That wouldn't be a treat. And I like to treat him too. In fact, I need to find out if I can buy tickets for Just a minute or The unbelivable truth.
(Aberracion Life's getting very complicated, but a lot of fun., Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:23, Reply)

Thankfully Em treats me too
She bought me a rather ace skull tshirt the other day :D
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 15:24, Reply)

my ex husband
cost me loads. I never went overdrawn until I was with him. I think I must have paid off about £6000 in debts which were largely not mine.
( Citizen Cavy Admires your passion for conformity, Wed 25 Aug 2010, 14:36, Reply)