Taken today...

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 19:51, 28 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

Haha!
It's all out now.
( girlinthehole, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 19:57, Reply)

as soon as I saw Tatchell at the march today I knew I had to take this pic

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 19:58, Reply)

I'm glad we've got all these wonderful people around to dictate who can and can't visit the UK.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 20:26, Reply)

I haven't said he doesn't have the right to visit.
I live in a democracy; this gives me the right to protest against certain views that the Catholic church express on some subjects if I chose to. So I did.
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 20:58, Reply)

You have been fairly singleminded
on the subject since the visit though
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 21:08, Reply)

Yes I have, but I don't think anything I have said contradicts what I have in my post tonight.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 21:49, Reply)

Wasn't claiming it did
it is rather flogging a dead horse though, permanent outrage is more than a bit boring
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 22:31, Reply)

I posted this picture as Monty had been ranting about Tatchell a few days ago, not to make any points about the pope

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Sun 19 Sep 2010, 14:22, Reply)

So what is it that makes this right, and English Defence League marches wrong?
After all, they too live in a democracy; that (allegedly) gave them the right to protest against certain views that the government express on some subjects if they chose to.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 22:23, Reply)

Because the English defence league are a bunch of cunts?

( girlinthehole, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 22:51, Reply)

As I see it, they're both mobs of self-important loudmouthed peasants who like to wave their pitchforks and bellow their opinions into the wind.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 22:56, Reply)

Peasants?
Hahahaha!
( girlinthehole, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:05, Reply)

Are the EDL not a bit more
Fighty?
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:10, Reply)

I dunno.
That woman in the red top looks ready to rumble.
( girlinthehole, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:12, Reply)

They can certainly bleat about their "right to free speech" in quite an aggressive fashion.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:32, Reply)

Well I know which group I'd rather be accidentally stuck in the middle of.

( girlinthehole, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:35, Reply)

The way I see it*
They do both generally have the right to do what they're doing, if they do it within the law that is, so that fightyness some of them seem to like is a bit wrong.

I think the difference is in what the views are of the people that are judging them. Most people will agree racism is wrong, and be anti-EDL, therefore will say that is wrong. Meanwhile, they will agree with other marches and think they are ok, as they match with their personal views.


*Always a dangerous thing to say.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:16, Reply)

I agree.
All marches do in practical terms is give more publicity to the cause they're rallying against. If you're really that concerned, why not do something about it yourself instead of gathering round for a big public whine?
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:26, Reply)

And what exactly are they able to do?
Steal the pope and make him say sorry.
( girlinthehole, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:36, Reply)

Oh I don't know, plant a bomb in the Vatican?
Note to intelligence agencies: this is a hypothesis. I do not endorse such actions myself.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:43, Reply)

If protesters actually could dictate who could and couldn't visit the UK
this would be a lot less of a moronic thing to say.
(Falstaff's Spiritual Successor, Sun 19 Sep 2010, 9:46, Reply)

I like Tatchell
He might not be always right (I'm all for equality but he's a bit millitant for me - it's not cool publicly outing people, as he was wont to do in the 90s) but you've got to admire someone who's been physically attacked 200+ times and still carrys on campaigning and putting himself in danger, especially as he's a raving limp-wristed bender.
(Mr Big Stuff, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 20:52, Reply)

Yes he campaigns for what he believes in & I have to respect that, but he does come across as a wanker a lot of the time

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 20:56, Reply)

kinda my point exactly

(Mr Big Stuff, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 20:58, Reply)

you don't have to respect it at all. you either respct it or you don't. ever heard the word dogma?
he sometimes acts like an utter tosser but if you let that get in the way of how you perceive him then you are a short-sighted fool.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Sat 18 Sep 2010, 22:18, Reply)

I would like to see a comedy Tatchell account "out" Monty
that would be pretty funny, for a few hours anyway.
(Mr Big Stuff, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 21:00, Reply)

maybe not a few hours...
but there would be a few moments of LOL before the unLOL hit.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Sat 18 Sep 2010, 21:55, Reply)

cracking bit of photoshoppery there.
isn't it lovely that we live in a democracy and we are able to abuse people because we don't like the manner in which they go about championing the rights of others? (whether they are championing their own cause or not)
and the nerve of some people having divergent lifestyles and views, why that just gets my goat. i'm fair happy i get to vent my ever so angry spleen. i think that's what stops it from exploding.
all that outrage could make a person ill.
( blaireau69 , the Cumbrian Travis Bickle., Sat 18 Sep 2010, 21:52, Reply)