I haven't said he doesn't have the right to visit.
I live in a democracy; this gives me the right to protest against certain views that the Catholic church express on some subjects if I chose to. So I did.
(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 20:58, 2 replies, latest was 16 years ago)

You have been fairly singleminded
on the subject since the visit though
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 21:08, Reply)

Yes I have, but I don't think anything I have said contradicts what I have in my post tonight.

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 21:49, Reply)

Wasn't claiming it did
it is rather flogging a dead horse though, permanent outrage is more than a bit boring
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 22:31, Reply)

I posted this picture as Monty had been ranting about Tatchell a few days ago, not to make any points about the pope

(lkjshaglkasjdhglkhjz lkcvl; g;aodh;owih, Sun 19 Sep 2010, 14:22, Reply)

So what is it that makes this right, and English Defence League marches wrong?
After all, they too live in a democracy; that (allegedly) gave them the right to protest against certain views that the government express on some subjects if they chose to.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 22:23, Reply)

Because the English defence league are a bunch of cunts?

( girlinthehole, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 22:51, Reply)

As I see it, they're both mobs of self-important loudmouthed peasants who like to wave their pitchforks and bellow their opinions into the wind.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 22:56, Reply)

Peasants?
Hahahaha!
( girlinthehole, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:05, Reply)

Are the EDL not a bit more
Fighty?
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:10, Reply)

I dunno.
That woman in the red top looks ready to rumble.
( girlinthehole, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:12, Reply)

They can certainly bleat about their "right to free speech" in quite an aggressive fashion.

( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:32, Reply)

Well I know which group I'd rather be accidentally stuck in the middle of.

( girlinthehole, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:35, Reply)

The way I see it*
They do both generally have the right to do what they're doing, if they do it within the law that is, so that fightyness some of them seem to like is a bit wrong.

I think the difference is in what the views are of the people that are judging them. Most people will agree racism is wrong, and be anti-EDL, therefore will say that is wrong. Meanwhile, they will agree with other marches and think they are ok, as they match with their personal views.


*Always a dangerous thing to say.
(PenguinOfDeath is Scottish, and most likely angry, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:16, Reply)

I agree.
All marches do in practical terms is give more publicity to the cause they're rallying against. If you're really that concerned, why not do something about it yourself instead of gathering round for a big public whine?
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:26, Reply)

And what exactly are they able to do?
Steal the pope and make him say sorry.
( girlinthehole, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:36, Reply)

Oh I don't know, plant a bomb in the Vatican?
Note to intelligence agencies: this is a hypothesis. I do not endorse such actions myself.
( The Mock TurtIe ™ --- Thinks you are a cunt, on, Sat 18 Sep 2010, 23:43, Reply)