I use my iPhone
But used to use an iPod. I love them, but then I love using iTunes. If you hate iTunes, don't bother with one.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 15:59, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

I do hate iTunes with a passion, but I enjoy the easy userbility (perfectly chromulent word) of the iPod.

(TheColonel, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:00, Reply)

You can use other media software to transfer songs
Pretty sure Media Monkey (awesome app, I use it to organise and fill in the gaps in tags in my music) can do it.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:02, Reply)

I have an old (2005) iPod
I love it. I have it hooked up to the car stereo via a hand-knitted hardwired connection which charges it and plays into the aux input.

You do have to use iTunes with it though. Personally I can't see what all the fuss is about. It's easy enough to use, does exactly what it's supposed to, and it's not like you need to use it all that often.

Edit - OK, according to Lab, you don't have to use iTunes...
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:04, Reply)

I find itunes to be perfectly fine
I don't see what the fuss is about either.

Also, I've got an ipod shuffle which is awesome for me needs as it stops me from selecting what to listen to and means I get to hear more good stuff that I otherwise wouldn't.

have had a variety of ipods over the last few years, and with the exception of the Mini, they have all been great.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:07, Reply)

This is something I have considered. I did a little research on iPods a month or two back to get one for my sister,
and it seemed quite difficult to get hold of an older model.
Are they widely available (except ebay) or have you had yours for a while?
(TheColonel, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:08, Reply)

Just get an iPod classic
They have ridiculously large hard drives. The problem with older iPods is the battery starts losing charge after a year or two of heavy use.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:11, Reply)

Possibly
but the only time I use mine without having it hooked up to the car is on long or medium haul flights. And I don't do them more than once or twice a year.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:15, Reply)

Yep
I have an old v2 iPod (first Windows compatible, 10GB, black and white screen) that still works fine, but loses charge after an hour.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:18, Reply)

I bought mine new
in the USA, because I was working over there for a week and they were cheaper in American shops than even my education price was here.

Apart from the occasional disk glitch, which I fix by bashing it on my head until it gets going again, it's been faultless.
( K2k6 has a proper job these days, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:14, Reply)

On the iPods, you don't _have_ to use iTunes, and itunes is shit on windows. For iOS devices you do though.
iTunes is great for the most part on OSX though.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:10, Reply)

why is it shit on windows?
it does everything I want it to and does it in a way that I don't find annoying or slow
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:11, Reply)

Why are you shit at travelling to places?

( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:12, Reply)

why don't you shut up and fuck off?

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:13, Reply)

I have nowhere to go
As I have already been to where I said I was going to go
( TGB checking Off Topic is still shit at, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:14, Reply)

the shutting up part will be fine for now then.

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:16, Reply)

It's not shit
Just when it first came out it wasn't as smooth an experience on PCs as it was on Macs. It's fine on both now, I routinely have it running on my home Windows 7 machine, my home Mac mini, Macbook and work Mac mini.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:13, Reply)

that's my point
I don't think it is shit at all. I was asking gonz why he thinks so
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:14, Reply)

I'm a laptop user, so my resources are quite a bit more limited.
But I found Win7 even on my high-spec laptop would take quite a bit of time jumping from section to section.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:15, Reply)

Ahh
I use Win7 on my desktop machine, which is/was fairly nippy.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:16, Reply)

In my experiance, it's a system hog, it takes a noticable amount of time between switching sections.
I'm not talking about minutes, but it taking 5-10 seconds to go from the store to the music folder, and even longer for searching, is no good at all.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:14, Reply)

hmm
I guess I don't use quite a lot of it's functionality, which may be why I haven't seen the bits that aren't so good.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:14, Reply)

I don't experience that
I used to, about 3 years ago, but haven't for a while.
( Labia Majora You keep on talking but it makes no sense at all, Tue 21 Sep 2010, 16:15, Reply)