A dead shark in a tank isn't art though, its science
and thus belongs in a musuem or suchlike, not some Russian oligarch's house
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 11:41, 2 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

You could argue that all Art should belong in Museums as well.

(PsychoChomp, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 11:42, Reply)

To my mind, art requires some kind of skill
painting, drawing, sculpture

NOT a fucking chainsaw and a fish
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 11:43, Reply)

I saw Michaelangelo's David when I was 9
Fucking incredible, the detail is just phenomenal.
( Agnostic Antichrist Baltimora, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 11:43, Reply)

That is art!
Stuff like the Sistine chapel, etc
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 11:44, Reply)

eleventy billion times this ^
If I could make it (given the right materials obviously) then it's not fucking art.
(berk, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 11:45, Reply)

I disagree.
With the right training most people (who aren't spackhanded retards) could copy almost any piece of art. So, therefore, you could make most of these things. What you couldn't do is make it originally, because you didn't have the idea. Ideas are just as much skill as being able to weild a brush or a chisel or a violin bow.

But, I still think Hirst's stuff is shite, mind.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 11:49, Reply)

Every month or soo I get someone who wants me to build a website, where they tell me the idea, get upset when I ask logic questions, and then say I can have 50% if I do 100% of the work and investment.
Most of the time they're porn related.

"I go around fucking these chicks, and we pay them, and we do it on video, and then sale the videos".

Or

"Facebook, yeah', £25b, yeah', how about we make a website that's like facebook, only it's for pugs. We'll make a fortune, there must be loads of pugs owners out there who want to share their pugs."

or

"Yeah', just like google, only it would belong to us".
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 12:36, Reply)

They are _not_ website developers, designers or even conceptionalists.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 12:37, Reply)

You need skill to use a chainsaw
and what about sculpture, they use hammers and wooden sculptures use chainsaws.
I think you're underestimating how hard it is to cut a shark in half and preserve it.
(PsychoChomp, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 11:45, Reply)

If it was alive it would be difficult, yes
Do you think he actually did it?
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 11:46, Reply)

Really depend on your definition of art.
I mean, I pretty much agree, but others certainly would argue that as long as it is willingly displayed and appreciated it can be classed as art.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 7 Dec 2010, 11:43, Reply)