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Have you ever looked at someone and just thought
"They have the genetics to be a porn star."

Well, meet 15 year old Annie..
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first is totally safe for work, second is myspack style bikini photo.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:04, archived)
I'm not going to get into this..
But I'm assuming Syncubus will. :(
(I helped save b3ta! Jam Master Geordie Hero of B3ta., Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:05, archived)
Oh just have a look you big poof.
Neither pic is porn
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:10, archived)
I'm not going to.
Also. I am watching POLITICS.
(I helped save b3ta! Jam Master Geordie Hero of B3ta., Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:11, archived)
Oh JMG, you're so gay.
You'd rather watch important world events than photos of an underage girl? GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:14, archived)
And...
He's not the only one.

What? I heard pornstar!
(Toxoplasmosis Dulce et decorum est pro sodomy coleslaw, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:18, archived)
Ah........
Another Indonesian pervert surfaces
(I helped save b3ta! fagilliD Fuck I'm good!, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:58, archived)
Ho
'Another' being the word.
(Toxoplasmosis Dulce et decorum est pro sodomy coleslaw, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 7:20, archived)
Are you a paedophile?

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:09, archived)
nope.
and fyi: paedo's are interested in prepubescent children. She is clearly not prepubescent.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:11, archived)
Oh so as long as they've got pubes it's ok?

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:12, archived)
oh fuck off you cunt
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

read and shut up.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:13, archived)
You want us to look at a 15 year old.
I think you may be the cunt here.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:15, archived)
Do you close your eyes everytime someone < 16 is in your field of view?
You utter twat.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:15, archived)
hehe, I didn't think this could go so well at this hour!
JENK IS A PAEDOPHILE
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:16, archived)

hehe, I didn't think this could go so well at this hour!
JENK IS A PAEDOPHILE
I can't think of a retort.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:17, archived)
Can you not?
I'm not surprised, you dirty nonce.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:18, archived)
Have you gaz'd JMG yet telling him to "watch this wobble"?

(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:20, archived)
If not, what's next? Something about my mum?
Or shall we just jump straight to the "my dad could beat the shit out of your dad" insults?
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:21, archived)
When did your parents come into this?
Did they abuse you?
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:22, archived)
Should I? Are you wobbling?
You're the one suggesting a 15 year old should be a porn star, and subsequently getting all irate about the whole affair.

NONCE.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:21, archived)
*yawn*
No, I didn't say a 15 year old should be a porn star. I said she has the genetics for it. So when she is old enough she probably will be a pornstar. But you're too busy lighting the torch and grabbing the pitch fork, whilst writing a letter to the daily mail to see it.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:24, archived)
Nice use of the "yawn" bailout there. It's up there with "OMG I am going to ignore you!".
You said you looked at a 15 year old girl and thought about her being a pornstar.
Torches and pitchforks? Have you lost the plot? You were discussing paedoporn. Are we adding BDSM Paedo Porn to the list now?

I don't think an idiot rag like the Daily Mail would like your suggestions either. Are you trying to cleverly imply that I read it?

I think you've damaged your public image enough already; you should tone it down.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:28, archived)
I was not discussing paedoporn.
I was discussing the genetics of someone, who happens to be 15.

I used the "*yawn*" because I literally did have a big sigh whilst reading your diatribe.

You can't see past the fact it's a 15 year old to see the point I was making in the first fucking place. She has fucking huge tits. Abnormally big. There is nothing I found erotic about them, I actually infact find them repulsive, but it did make me think "I bet she'll find it easy to have a career in porn when she starts looking for work"
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:31, archived)
What have genetics got to do with pornstars?
Most of the "big tits" you wank off to online are going to be fake little boy - sorry to spoil your fantasy there.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:34, archived)
Avoiding the point again
and you try to say I was going for a "get out clause" by using the "*yawn*".
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:37, archived)
Who's avoiding?
You avoided my question! This is ridiculous!

Are you a retard too?
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:38, archived)
Fine, I'll be Captain Obvious, just for you.
Genetics have a fucking lot to do with being a pornstar, or a successful one at least. Notice it's the girls that people find attractive, that make the most money in porn. Genetics give them pretty faces, and not having any genetic mutations is what makes them not have any deformaties. Having massive, natural, tits will get her, at the least, into the market for massive natural tits. Something the girls who don't have them won't. Yes, even the fake ones.

As for your "little boy" comment, am I supposed to say "I'm anything but little" so you can reply "you fat fuck" or similar?
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:44, archived)
No, I was responding to your apparent mental age.
You're a bit of a pig to be fair though. Picking some poor girl with disproportional development, and suggesting that "They have the genetics to be a porn star" - something you clearly thought up whilst NOT looking at her "pretty face".

Now that you bring up faces - most of the successful fake titted pornstars of this world are fucking ugly, which matters not, since nobody looks at the faces in porn.

I ask again - what the fuck have genetics got to do with porn? You're a moron. Genetics have nothing to do with it.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:49, archived)
So even after spelling out what genetics have to do with porn
you ask again, what do genetics have to do with porn?

Righto.

And I'm sure you're just so squeaky fucking clean, having never judged anyone or made a superficial comment.. oh wait, too late for that, isn't it?
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:52, archived)
Oh, and as for the faces being ugly thing
I agree they are, but a lot of people still think they are attractive.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:53, archived)
So, what has the subjective attractiveness of a woman got to do with genetics?

edit: Come on, answer! You just said it's the opinion of the observer that decides attractiveness! What the fuck have genetics got to do with this? NOTHING. It's opinion, not genetics.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:58, archived)
I just did, below.
Have some patience, not all of us are sat here frantically pressing f5.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:10, archived)
You haven't provided an explanation yet.
This is because you are failing to find anything to back up your crazy claims.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:14, archived)
You didn't spell anything out at all.
You've now added faces into the argument, as well as unfortunate breasts.

Like I said, if you could read properly, the majority of pornstars are not pretty in the face, and those that appear to be so have 20 layers of makeup on.

Your genetics argument has no basis at all, and you have consistently failed to provide any reasonable explanation. I suspect you'll fail to explain this again, and accuse me of avoiding some non-point.

I'll say again - you're clearly a sexist pig that likes to consider women as potential pornstars because of the size of their breasts. You don't seem to mind doing this for a 15 year old either.
You are a disgusting excuse for a human being.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:58, archived)
The successful pornstars are pretty in the face.
and it's clear as day what genetics have to do with someone being attractive or not. Attractive girls make more money in porn.

Symmetry of the facial features is a big thing in attractiveness, for example. This is down to genetics. Shape of the eyes, nose, mouth, and even head. All down to genetics.

I'm sure you've looked at a woman and said "great tits" or the like, have you?
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:09, archived)
See above - you're contradicting yourself.
You say: I don't think pornstars are that attractive.
You say: The most attractive girls make the most money from porn.

Make your mind up!

You're saying you find the most successful pornstars attractive in the face, and that is what makes them successful, and NOT their massive fake tits.
Are you really that deluded?
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:10, archived)
The ones that appeal to the majority of people who purchase porn.
Not necessarily me - just to be Captian Obvious again.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:15, archived)
Look, dude, you're making yourself look a bit thick here.
You said the girl with the massive tits had the genetics for being a pornstar - nothing about her face!
Most pornstars have FAKE tits. Genetics are not relevant to success in porn. How hard is this to understand?
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:25, archived)
I've answered below because I cba with one word per line posts.

(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:26, archived)
Now you're posting gibberish :-(

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:27, archived)
...
here..
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:31, archived)
Nice assuming there.
I think the bikini photo was unnecessary to make your point.
(I helped save b3ta! DeSpong currently knitting your suggestions - see profile, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:29, archived)
All women with large breasts become pornstars.
Didn't you know that?
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:30, archived)
I had big tits
but the kids ate them
(I helped save b3ta! DeSpong currently knitting your suggestions - see profile, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:33, archived)
OMG you let kids eat your tits?!?!
PAEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!111!!1111!1
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:35, archived)
The little fuckers bite

(I helped save b3ta! DeSpong currently knitting your suggestions - see profile, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:42, archived)
I bet there's niche for "MILFs gnarled tit" porn.
You'd get in easy!
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:44, archived)
*doesn't click*
:(((
(I helped save b3ta! Lisette von Falcon, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:11, archived)
Oh that is awesome.

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:12, archived)
Indeed it is.
.
(Toxoplasmosis Dulce et decorum est pro sodomy coleslaw, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:31, archived)
As is your username, hahah.

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:35, archived)
Ahhh!
*Blushes* Ta!
(Toxoplasmosis Dulce et decorum est pro sodomy coleslaw, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:48, archived)
I know Toxo
In real life, hence I understand his appreciation of the pictures.
(I helped save b3ta! fagilliD Fuck I'm good!, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:00, archived)
I feel sorry for her
unless they are fake, in which case I think she is very stupid.
(I helped save b3ta! DeSpong currently knitting your suggestions - see profile, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:13, archived)
Not fake.

(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:13, archived)
Then I feel sorry for her
she obviously developed early, and apart from the social issues they will create, she's going to have serious back problems for most of her life.

I'd get a reduction if I was her.
(I helped save b3ta! DeSpong currently knitting your suggestions - see profile, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:27, archived)
Ditto.

(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:28, archived)
She could pay for the surgery with the massive amounts of money she will earn being a porn star

(I helped save b3ta! DeSpong currently knitting your suggestions - see profile, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:31, archived)
Roll on the band wagon.

(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:33, archived)
I was trying to make you laugh

(I helped save b3ta! DeSpong currently knitting your suggestions - see profile, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:34, archived)
In that case, my apologies

(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:37, archived)
Myspace whores o clock?
I think i shall sleep.
Hi and bye.
(I helped save b3ta! Cae1, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 4:41, archived)
[the reply to continue the barney between me and Dave Trouser]
because it's fucking simple. Genetics, i.e. your DNA, is what decides what your cellular structure will be. Simple as fucking that. Your Genetics decide what sex you'll be, what colour hair you'll have, what colour eyes you'll have, the number of limbs you'll have, your height, your skin tone, etc.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:29, archived)
I know what genetics do, dear.
But since attractiveness is decided by the observer - how can you say that genetics decide that?
Also, porn lovers, such as yourself, are only after tits and fucking. Now, genetics can give a girl large breasts, but since MOST PORNSTARS HAVE FAKE TITS, genetics aren't relevant in terms of the apparent "attractivness" of a pornstar, and so genetics cannot, and do not, decide the success of a pornstar.

You know what does - you see enough of it - large tits (regardless of being natural), willingness to do anal sex and take a load in the face.

That's nurture, not nature. The personality traits also come from abuse from parents most of the time too.

Your argument has nothing to support it!
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:38, archived)
Apart from
No, tits and fucking are not the only things I look at when watching porn, I've already mentioned the natural tits market. I'm sure you've also heard of the market for big tit magazines - both natural and unatural. And fucking christ this was just a simple fucking passing comment when I saw a pic of a girl with gigantic breasts on another forum, now dragged into a fucking argument, online, between two people who don't fucking know each other - with one so sure the other is a "sexist pig" and "a sorry excuse for a human being"

Fuck me, you criticise for judgemental behaviour, then go right ahead and do exactly the fucking same.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:43, archived)
err what?
No, tits and fucking are not the only things I look at when watching porn

There's also legs, eyes, hair, bootie, beaver, shoulders, hands, those little dimples at the base of the spine...
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:46, archived)
He brought up "successful pornstars".
None of those things affect success. Willingness to do certain things does. That, and big fake tits.
It's nothing to do with what he or you like.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:50, archived)
but has a lot to do with what the majority like.
Ergo, if it sells, they are successful. The more it sells, the more successful they are. Pretty, in the eyes of the majority, doing porn, will sell.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:54, archived)
"Pretty, in the eyes of the majority, doing porn, will sell."
Once again, nothing to do with genetics. Or are you now saying they all look the same?
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:58, archived)
DUM DUM DUM we're back here again.
It's her genetics that have given her the look, before any surgery or anything, that will make her appealing to the majority of porn fans. She has the porn look. Her genetics gave her the base look of massive tits, blue eyes, a reasonably pretty face - which will appeal to the porn fan majority.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:04, archived)
It's the makeup, silly.
You'll find that this majority you speak of will find the pornstars decidely unattractive without the makeup on.

Saying someone "has the genetics for porn" is basically saying you think everyone can be a pornstar - which completely rules out genetics, given that you've also gone on about the different niche markets too.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:10, archived)
But the only actresses to be truely successful
in porn are those who are in the mainstream, which is only a small percentage of the entire porn market. And no, it's not the makeup. She has good symmetry of her facial features, something that is proven to boost attractiveness. Her nose isn't fucked up, and her ears aren't perpendicular to the side of her head, for two examples. Genetics decided these things for her.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:15, archived)
She's not a pornstar though, and doesn't look like a mainstram pornstar either.
Mainstream stars don't have symmetry either - in a moving video, you won't notice, and in stills, they're photoshopped for symmetry.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:25, archived)
So if she has symmetry, they won't need to photoshop.
All the more reason she could be more successful.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:28, archived)
Do you really think there is ANY professional porn that is not retouched for skin-tone and "corrections" of skin folds?
You're kidding yourself.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 7:00, archived)
You're kidding yourself. Only magazines and stills for covers etc
are 'shopped.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 7:03, archived)
Pfft, that's hilarious.
You haven't got a clue what you're talking about. That is so untrue it makes me wonder if you believe in the tooth fairy.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 7:07, archived)
You seriously think all videos are modified?
hahahahaha. And this comes from you, who "doesn't analyse porn" correcting me, who apparently does analyse porn..

Contradictions ahoy!

Well, it's silly o'clock, I've got stuff to do, and we're getting back to one word per line replies. Round of applause for Dave Trouser everybody, he has successfully won this arguement, and successfully trolled me into it to begin with. Wasn't difficult, I'm sure he'll agree.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 7:13, archived)
I already said that videos weren't - proof you can't read.
There was no argument to win - you had nothing but noncesense to type at us.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 7:15, archived)
or big natural tits, I understand that not all port stars are 90% silicone
Have you overlooked that the intial comment was possibly nothing more than a mildly humourous reference to her massive hooters?
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:54, archived)
Your original comment stated that big tits made her a potential porn candidate. You can't deny that.
You saw a 15 year old girl's tits, and thought of porn.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:48, archived)
Actually I was implying the whole package, not just the tits.
The barbie doll face and body, and to boot the gigantic tits. So yes, I can deny it.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:49, archived)
No you weren't you liar.
You picked her becasue of the tits, otherwise you wouldn't have posted it at all.

What you're now saying, is that any girl you find pretty, could make a success in porn, based just on that observation.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:55, archived)
"The whole package, not just the tits"
The tits are included in that, you know? Yes, they were the primary reason, but the rest of it went swimmingly in with them. If it were a very ugly girl, say morbidly obese, with gigantic tits, I would not have posted it. So fuck off, I am denying it.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:57, archived)
,,,,
Rule 34 dear boy!

ANY girl, no matter how talented, untalented, gifted or deformed, can be successful in porn. Only the degree of success varies.
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:57, archived)
I don't think this retard and his "rules" is going to kelp Jenk's argument.
You just ruled out genetics in one line. Well done.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:01, archived)
Selective reading again, Dave?
"the degree of success varies"
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:06, archived)
If it sells it's successful.
You said that one. Since there are hundreds of types of porn, genetics has fuck all to do with anything.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:12, archived)
Making a profit means it is successful.
But to make a fortune is a different story.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:17, archived)
Making a fortune had fuck all to do with looks though!
Top pay is decided by actions not appearance. Your "majority" never see the stars before surgery or makeup. They see the makeup, silicone and photoshopped results. You are completely deluded on this.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:21, archived)
Actually they do.
Tera Patrick, as an example, was making a fucking mint out of porn before she had any surgery. She was even drafted by Wrestling companies and TV shows. She's plastic as fuck now, but she was already one of the top stars long before she seemingly took a dive into the BDD pool.

There are still other stars at the top of the game who have not had any surgery at all.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:27, archived)
Did she not use makeup either?
I bet none of her photos wre photoshopped either!

You're even more deluded than it first seemed!
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:31, archived)
Now you are implying I've said she's not needing makeup?
You really are clutching at straws now, and claim I'm the deluded one. No, not much of her material was photoshopped, actually. Photoshop work is expensive, so most porn producers don't bother with it to save money - even the biggest. However, even if it were needed, because she already has natural beauty, very little would have been needed. You pay designers/artists by time, not per picture, so it would still save money to have an already attractive girl, who'd only need a bit of airbrushing, compared to someone that would need virtual facial reconstruction.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:38, archived)
No, you moron, I'm saying people like her in her made-up state.
Without all that makeup, she'd be a massive fail, like you.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:41, archived)
and yet it's clear to see she has a pretty face even under the makeup.
Are you incapable of seeing what a girl is like without make up on, Dave, is that it?
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:46, archived)
To you she might be.
You and your friend here might like to analyse porn, but your beloved majority won't be the slightest bit interested in what's under the makeup. Makeup done by a pro can make even a sinfully ugly girl look great.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:49, archived)
Which costs money, so a naturally better looking girl, to the majority (before you pull that old hat on again)
won't need as much, so it won't cost as much, so there is less expense, so there is more money, so the actress can demand more money, so she gets paid more.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:52, archived)
But people like Tera DO need a lot of photoshop and makeup.
The better looking girls aren't as successful. You seem to believe that porn success is primarily down to appearance. That just isn't true - it's a certain personality, ability and actions that count. Makeup and photoshop are NOT expensive anymore, and certainly don't decide level of success.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:56, archived)
Photoshop and makeup are hella fucking expensive.
Porn is primarily appearance. I won't deny the others you list are a factor, because they are. However this goes back to, yet again something already discussed, the fact she is willing to take photos of her scantily dressed self and put them on the net can easily be seen as exhibitionism, the main behavioural attribute of all pornstars.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 7:00, archived)
The appearance is not a natural one, and hence your genetic argument is invalid.
ALL professional pornstars making money are heavily caked in makeup, and 99% of them have implants. Many of them also admit to sexual abuse when they were younger.

Genetics do not decide the success of a porn model.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 7:04, archived)
But her genetics have given her the base look
of a porn star. She has a head start, if she choses to go that route. You really are a broken record, Dave.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 7:06, archived)
No they haven't. Are you a teenager?
I ask because only a child would think that any girl with large breasts has the "base look" of a porn star.
Either that, or you're mentally retarded and 40, living in a hick town.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 7:10, archived)
Retard?
I hardly think that insults are a valid part of a rational argument.

My comment does not rule out genetics. Please see the part of my comment that says "the level of success will vary".

A genetic predisposition for fair skin, fine bones and large breasts makes you more beautiful than average. Attractiveness is measure of success for porn stars. Indeed it is a contributing factor to the distinction between 'star' and 'actress'. You are correct that attitude plays a part. Neither one however is the sole gauge.
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:08, archived)
Now read Jenk's original post and see how irrelevant what you said is.

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:15, archived)
...
He saw an attractive young woman with large hooters and observed that she was fair of skin, fair of hair, in possession of large breasts and flirting with the camera. Indeed all these things indicate talents and gifts that would, if properly applied, lead to success as a porn star. I fail to see your objection to the initial observation.

Is it that number 15 that freaks you out? Would you have had such a reaction if the post had been titled "19yo annie"?
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:19, archived)
What talent? Photos do not show talent.
Are you another idiot american?
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:23, archived)
Again with the personal insults...
Do you not have any valid challenges to the argument?
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:24, archived)
Plenty, but you and Jenk seem incapable of comprehending even basic concepts.
www.b3ta.com/talk/5483894

I'm not the one losing my temper. Jenk was apparently upset by something you later used to try and support his argument. You're both completely retarded.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:28, archived)
an insult for an insult.
You implied I was/am a paedo by the very same comment you've linked, so I called you a cunt.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:32, archived)
You are a bit of a creepy nonce, to be fair.

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:35, archived)
OK, well if you'd like to continue the chat without throwing around insult, I'm happy to chat.
But I assure you that I'm not retarded and my nationality is irrelevant to the discussion.

As it happens, yes I do consider it "ok (to appreciate a woman's beauty) if they have pubes". To repeat however, this does not mean that I would ever touch a girl under the age of consent, nor would I solicit nor seek pornographic images of girls under the age of consent. Thus I am not a nonce any more than appreciating the Mona Lisa makes me an art thief because I view it without taking it home.

May I assume that you do not consider this OK? That would appear to be the drive behind your comments. You have not made any specific replies to my observations of sexual mores over history nor have you answer my question regarding the title of the OP.
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:37, archived)

www.b3ta.com/talk/5484001
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:39, archived)
Your facility with argument is eclipsed only by the creativity of your insults.
Good day, Sir.
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:46, archived)
And you butt in halfway with irrelevant nonsense about how you wish
you could share the love with younger girls. Best if you fuck off to /board where you belong.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:58, archived)
Why is that a bad thing?
I started having sexual thoughts about women long before they or I reached the age of concent for my corner of the sphere.

And it's worth noting that the age of concent varies from state to state and age to age.

So why is it a bad thing to look at a chick of any age that has massive norks and thing sexual thoughts? Nature says she's ready; everything else is a temporal, social construct.
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:50, archived)
That last line of yours there is incredibly creepy.

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:56, archived)
As the saying goes, "If there's grass on the pitch..."
For countless millenia the gauge of whether a female is 'ready' for sexual relations is whether she is menstruating. The age of consent is a relatively modern concept. That's what I'm getting at. I'm a perfectly normal member of society. There's no way I'll touch a girl under the age of consent in an improper manner. But that doesn't mean I can't appreciate their beauty and appeal. No way I'll date a teenager either; great bodies but their brains aren't developed.
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:03, archived)
You're not making it better here.

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:04, archived)
That's because you're shaped by the contemporary social construct and closed-minded.
The facts of my argument are irrefutable.
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:10, archived)
Yes, I am such a sheep for not having sexual thoughts if I see
an over-developed 13 year old. How silly of me!
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:11, archived)
haha, also, your post sounds like the defense that Gary Glitter's lawyer might use.
Fucking hell.
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:37, archived)
err what?
You leaps of logic are unfathomable.

I believe that Gary Glitter's lawyer argued that he didn't have sex with underage girls.
That's different from saying "I done it but it's OK because mother nature says it's OK even though your laws don't."
You seem to have overlooked that even though I can appreciate beauty, I wouldn't cross the line of what is legal and socially acceptable. It's a shame that things that don't fit within the narrow views of social norms can not be discussed without slanderous intimation.
(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:41, archived)
MIGHT use, you cretin.

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:43, archived)
mmmm boobies!

(I helped save b3ta! Ratsta, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 5:43, archived)
*Wanders back in*
Fuck off back to QOTW.
You NONCE
(I helped save b3ta! stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:23, archived)
Hello Stuj :-)
It's been busy in here...
(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:29, archived)
'Ning Mr Trouser.
So I noticed.
I have been WORKING.
Perhaps we ought to get /talk's fake nonces to challenge him to a nonce-off.
;)
(I helped save b3ta! stuj (^(^;;^)^) GO TEAM SPIDERS!(^(^;;^)^), Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:33, archived)
pfft

(I helped save b3ta! Dave Trouser ; the people's choice - 75% agree, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:35, archived)
back?
I've been there all of 3 times.
(I helped save b3ta! Jenk Neptune is a pedant and now I can't fit my sig in, Sat 27 Sep 2008, 6:30, archived)