yeah, if only Jeremy Corbyn was in charge!!!
Maybe with 'negative He-Man' crunching the numbers to keep the economy going!!!!

THEN we'd be OK!!
( Queef Smegwin U r a 🔔🔚, Thu 17 Dec 2020, 16:48, archived)

just to be clear I am no fan of the current government but having Student Grant and the Red Wedge All-stars running tings right now would surely be worse

( Queef Smegwin U r a 🔔🔚, Thu 17 Dec 2020, 16:49, archived)

my local MP was on the Corbyn front bench.
She had the bad luck to knock on my door for a chat when it was the Euro elections.
(THE MONGDADDY Wibble jib-jib!, Thu 17 Dec 2020, 17:04, archived)

that poor woman
I bet you invited her in and trapped her for hours going on about 'snapbacks' and endlessly repeating the same two Alan Partridge quotes until she lost the will to live - before delivering your coup de grace: singing a medley of 'nu metal' classics whilst skipping in a circle, clad in a pair of ludicrous voluminous trousers.
( Queef Smegwin U r a 🔔🔚, Thu 17 Dec 2020, 17:33, archived)

that's precisely what happened, are you spying on me?

(THE MONGDADDY Wibble jib-jib!, Thu 17 Dec 2020, 17:45, archived)

no, I'm your local MP 'eye arr el'

( Queef Smegwin U r a 🔔🔚, Thu 17 Dec 2020, 17:47, archived)

I didn't vote for you, because your then-boss was a hopeless cretin

(THE MONGDADDY Wibble jib-jib!, Thu 17 Dec 2020, 18:00, archived)

They’re all hopeless
I used to live a few doors down from Tim Farron, god-bothering aside he’s a pretty decent bloke but totally unequipped to lead a party, never mind govern the country. The Lib Dem’s are so irrelevant now I haven’t a clue who the current leader is

tl:dr politicians eh, what are they like
( Cheers Cheers, Thu 17 Dec 2020, 18:01, archived)

bring back Charles Kennedy!

(THE MONGDADDY Wibble jib-jib!, Thu 17 Dec 2020, 18:12, archived)

I’ll drink to that 🥃

( Cheers Cheers, Thu 17 Dec 2020, 18:13, archived)

Paddy Pantsdown 4 lyf

( Queef Smegwin U r a 🔔🔚, Fri 18 Dec 2020, 7:52, archived)

Hey, don't knock the Labour left.
They're doing the vital work of disrupting and holding to account the REAL enemy: Labour centrists. Once they're vanquished forever, they can start on the Lib Dems. Then the SNP and the Greens. By 2060, they should be ready to start taking on the Tories.
(The Porcupine From Purgatory we of all lost both have them, Fri 18 Dec 2020, 7:49, archived)

Labour's infighting is an absolute mess
But this is a revisionist history. It was Labour centrists who spent the past few years fighting bitterly against their own party rather than putting on a united front against the Tories. That was a disaster. Right now there is far less at stake (politically).
( Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Fri 18 Dec 2020, 10:26, archived)

Indeed, and I don't think I said that wasn't the case
but right now it's the Labour left who are fighting bitterly against their own party. (I mean, Corbyn's self-sabotage over the antisemitism report looked to me like a blatant attempt to goad Starmer into suspending him, and I reckon he's delighted that it worked.)

The difference is that the centrists have a slightly better chance of forming a government following a vote by the great unwashed. Corbyn's fan club never seems to be able to grasp that his popularity within their bubble doesn't increase the size of that bubble enough to win an election.

Or maybe we should just reinstate Jeremy as leader, and see if it's third time lucky.
(The Porcupine From Purgatory we of all lost both have them, Fri 18 Dec 2020, 12:10, archived)

It wouldn't have been any worse
Could have been a lot better. We'll never know.

Not sure where you get he idea Corbyn is economically illiterate from. Labour's manifesto was coherent and well costed. The people claiming it involved too much borrowing have now turned around and borrowed significantly more money, but instead of doing so to benefit the country they're doing so to corruptly enrich their mates.
( Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout, Fri 18 Dec 2020, 10:16, archived)

Labour still lost the election heavily, though.
It was their job to convince enough people that their manifesto was sound. If they failed to do that, that was their failure, not everyone else's.
(The Porcupine From Purgatory we of all lost both have them, Fri 18 Dec 2020, 12:20, archived)