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# I'd like to clear something up...
My house mate (Damocles) reckons the shark from the helicopter/shark series is called MeMe (as in mimi). I think you lot refer to any long-standing character such as No Hands, Fear etc as meme's, as in the psychological term for that kind of thing. Who's right?
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:05, archived)
# you
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:07, archived)
# Meeeeeeeeeem
Not me-me. Silly chicken.

*the sword of Damocles is hangin' over my head...*
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:07, archived)
# Uncross your Gordian knot
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:11, archived)
# Calm down, it was merely a mispronunciation...
*that ain't no criiiiiime!*
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:16, archived)
# meeem is the pronounciation
and yes it is to do with memetics and Richard Dawkin's definition of the word 'meme'
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:07, archived)
# Pronunciation?
?
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:30, archived)
# I was helping them out with how to pronounce that word too
;)
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:33, archived)
# The correct way is
pro-nun-see-ay-shun

;)

Can you imaging the smart-arse fun I had as a teenage with the thickos at school.

(and the general resentment behind their smiles)
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:38, archived)
# Okay, I was trying to squirm out of it. But keep it quiet
I have a reputation as a Professor to uphold :)
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:46, archived)
# What's it
worth?
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:56, archived)
# It's actually called
Brian, but he prefers to remain anonymous hence the meme reference.
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:07, archived)
# You are
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:08, archived)
# i refer you here
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:10, archived)
# the shark is from
the National Geographic and a famost wildlife photographer took the picture - nothing to do with mimi or meme.

The fear or nohands arn't really memes at all. Memes are cultural genes - e.g. aspects of society that are the building blocks of it.

so both wrong really as nohands & the shark helecopter can only be descibed as memes in a b3ta sense not strictly anything more.
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:10, archived)
#
"A meme is a unit of information in a mind whose existence influences events
such that more copies of itself get created in other minds."
So really memes are both carriers of information and creators of behaviour.
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:12, archived)
# ok thats closer
but i'm still right that these meems are not true meems as they are only in the b3ta world as it were.

(and strictly speaking they arn't at all by that definition)
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:15, archived)
# Yeah I was quoting that from a memetics website
but they also said there was no absolute definition of a meme so it depends how you see it.
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:20, archived)
# a nice definition is found
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:16, archived)
# So really
Glasscocks and mind piss are examples of memes in action..?
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:20, archived)
# Would I be massively incorrect to reduce that to
"monkey-see, monkey-do"?
I like the looks of that, I'll do the same, or tell everyone about it, etc.
Like Flock of Seagulls haircuts.
[edit] Or no-hands shops.
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:24, archived)
# what you mean it's actually REAL!!?!?
nah! don't believe it!
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:15, archived)
# He's called
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:18, archived)
# poor Stephen
he's so misunderstood.
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:22, archived)
# True,
and it's a poor excuse for a repost.
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:24, archived)
# wooo!
I hadn't seen that one..

any more around?
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:30, archived)
# They'll be a new one
Friday and every Friday after that...hopefully...and then a web site...hopefully.
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:32, archived)
# that's great
you're good at drawing you are, i bet you could draw anything
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:45, archived)
# I can't do car, horses
or anything complicated.
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:48, archived)
# Oooh
hullo missus
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:32, archived)
# I love those! Hadn't seen em before.
you're quite talented aint ya!?

(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:29, archived)
# Yes.
;)
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:33, archived)
# You guys are in trouble now....
....you should never have replied the answer. My flatmate (Royks0pp) is by far the most anally retentive person I have ever met. If something is debated, he does not let it die, ever. Now he has a taste for the collective intellect of b3ta you can expect many posts asking for 'clarification'.

You have been warned.

Besides, I think mimi is a good name for a shark ;)
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:33, archived)
# If you had a sword,
I'd be worried.


/Sad Rocky Horror joke.
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:37, archived)
# that's it..
from now on i talk to you only thru b3ta.
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:43, archived)
# Pre-dates Rocky Horror
by about 4000 years - it's a Greek myth.
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:44, archived)
# *throws rice*
(, Wed 2 Apr 2003, 16:45, archived)