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# What do we want? JUSTICE! When do we want it?
After we've got all the stuff we nicked back to the flat, cheers, and can you give us a hand with this telly

news
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:12, archived)
# Great as BBC News is,
they do leave you guessing a bit sometimes. I don't understand why people are rioting.

Or maybe I'm just being naive. After all, it was about a week after reading about it on BBC News before I realised that no-fly zone was a euphemism for air strikes.
(I helped save b3ta! The Coast Of Yemen, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:18, archived)
# because someone was shot and the crowd want justice

But it's once again an excuse for people to be cunts, looting and destroying other innocent peoples property.
Where's the justice for them?
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:20, archived)
# It's an excuse
to vent frustrations against a system that they feel persecutes or neglects them. Even though it's much the same system that stands between them and "survival of the fittest".
They also get to vent their violent tendencies and greed - "Wa-hey! Free stuff! The chance to smash other stuff!"
(I helped save b3ta! Tribs 🦇 ↓ dn ʎɐʍ sᴉɥʇ ↓🦇, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:26, archived)
# I don't understand how "I'm angry with Mr X therefore I will steal from Mr and Mrs Y and that will make things right" works
If a paedophile is angry with the police because someone is shot is he allowed to go and rape a child to air his frustration?

I'd guess it was more to do with the fact that a large number who turned up couldn't give a shit about the person who was shot or whether the police behaved according to the rule book or not, they just wanted to rob and steal which prevents a far simpler discussion and chance for proof of actual events.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:32, archived)
#
(I helped save b3ta! real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:41, archived)
# You know Godwin's law?
I reckon there should be a similar one for the first person to bring up paedophiles in the course of a thread. ;)

But you're very right. Most people have no idea about cause and effect, blame attribution or justice. Mob mentality seems to lower the collective IQ.
(I helped save b3ta! Andy_Control can't be held responsible for his actions., Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:42, archived)
# :D
It was the most deliberately extreme for the sake of example option I could think of.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:44, archived)
# Daily Mail Law
(I helped save b3ta! Bob the mul Don't look at me that way, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 11:03, archived)
# Why are they looting Carpet Right?
Carpet Right??
(Lister of Smeg No talking. No smoking. Follow the orange line, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:50, archived)
# underlay
nice underlay
(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:55, archived)
# Ariba brand
?
(Lister of Smeg No talking. No smoking. Follow the orange line, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:56, archived)
# top stuff...a shame to put carpet over it
www.flickr.com/photos/bethelicious/2239701027/
(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 10:00, archived)
# A protest was organised after the police shot somebody.
Predictability ensued.
(Lister of Smeg No talking. No smoking. Follow the orange line, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:24, archived)
# I'm quite used to the patchy reporting we tend to get when British police shoot someone.
I'm also unsurprised when such things are greeted by some locals as an excuse to loot the shit out of the surrounding stores - stores most other residents tend to rely heavily on.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Howdy, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:35, archived)
# The Met have a certain amount of form when shooting the wrong people
for making up all sorts of lies. Brazillian electricians, someone with a table legs in a bag, that guy they shot on a terrorism bust who was found not to be a terrorist, so they claimed he had child porn and then it turned out he didn't, that sort of thing...
(I helped save b3ta! Colonel Boris "...a desperate Buzzfeed imitation...", Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:57, archived)
# they also have a far lower kill rate than the members of the public doing all the stabbing and shooting to their neighbours
who are sometimes only guilty of living in a different postcode.
I'm in no way defending the police involved if they acted incorrectly here or saying who is to blame. But perspective is needed which is what is currently missing.

Anyway, too heavy for a Sunday, must dash.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 10:01, archived)
# I didn't say the case was dodgy.
I said that the Met are particularly bad at public relations when they goon something up, hence the reply to the comment about the patchy news over the whole thing.
(I helped save b3ta! Colonel Boris "...a desperate Buzzfeed imitation...", Sun 7 Aug 2011, 10:06, archived)
# in short
they're a set o' cunts....if there was no reaction they'd start killing left right and centre....this helps keep 'em in check
(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 10:03, archived)
# Nope.
The rioters need a damn' good hiding/jail sentence, but I was commenting more on the patchy distribution of news on shootings involving the Met.
(I helped save b3ta! Colonel Boris "...a desperate Buzzfeed imitation...", Sun 7 Aug 2011, 10:05, archived)
# those few you mentioned are a small percentage
lots of false arrests and trumped up charges are rife....take 7/7 Ripple Effect....wtf WENT ON THERE?.....like I said......cunts
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8756795263359807776
(I helped save b3ta! Elvis impersonator, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 10:13, archived)
# Tottenham is a safer place now they're only rioting, burning stuff and looting...
'Orrible North London cunts.
(I helped save b3ta! addickted has attained freedom, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 9:39, archived)
# Just seen the burnt out bus picture now I can imagine Radio Control
was saying to the driver "Ok it's burnt out have you tried stopping and restarting the engine?"... "Ok... try dumping all the air out and rebuilding it." "Right but can you finish mileage and drop passengers off?" "Ok Ok run it back light to garage so the engineers can have a look at it!" "What do you mean it's not going anywhere!? Ok I'm making this a formal instruction, run the bus back to garage!" - trufax ;) *may contain sarcasm
(I helped save b3ta! maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 10:32, archived)
# I'm fairly sure the mourners/protestors and looters are two different groups of people.
I haven't seen any evidence otherwise.
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Sun 7 Aug 2011, 11:24, archived)