

been asked to write a kids book full of robot building projects kids can do with their dads.
they have offered me a flat rate with no royalties, price not bad but not enough enough to give up day job to give it my full attention.
there is no way i can complete it before the deadline with the time i have available at weekends
shit fuck fuckity fucking fuck !!!! a job comes along that was made for me and i cant do it because of my fucking shitty day job.

if so, can't they be negotiated with for more time/money?
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:02,
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but they want it ready for fathers day next year.
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:03,
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not sure how many times a year you could do it for though
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:07,
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get paid.... write book... go back to work... win win ;-)
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:09,
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Well, less with printing/editing time. It's not that much of a squeeze, is it?
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:06,
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drawing and writing,
then re-drafting, consultation etc
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:08,
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then re-drafting, consultation etc

Thinking time can be done in quiet spots through the week, surely.
edit: fuck, you're not amoebaboy, but the point still stands, dammit.
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:09,
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edit: fuck, you're not amoebaboy, but the point still stands, dammit.

those cunts i work for make sure theres no quiet spots.
its like a fucking prison camp.
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:11,
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its like a fucking prison camp.

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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:14,
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and move to a day job that lets you have a little more time for other things. (Been there, done that)
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 23:04,
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i would have to bust my balls every weekend, my day job fucks me right up
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:09,
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Tell them *old relative* died and take a weeks compassionate leave.
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:17,
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there comes a point in life when you should just trust in providence. find a way to get this book done even if it means fucking this job over. sometimes things have a habit of coming together when you trust your instincts :)
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also , if they approached you, it's because they know that you can contribute something unique that no one else can to the book to make it sell more copies than if they got someone else to write it instead...
go for it and good luck
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:12,
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go for it and good luck

Wouldn't writing it for himself would break some interllectual property laws?
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:15,
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they could really fuck me up, nah,, just call it build robots from rubbish or some shit like that.
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:24,
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i would think that anything he does that doesn't break plagiary or copyright laws still counts as his own intellectual property
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:28,
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Then do it in his own time when he;s ready.....
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:32,
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but people don't seem to like it
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:41,
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If only everyone thought of just eating supper.... they would be no more hunger or starvation... night.....
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:49,
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and as i'm now stupidly tired, i'm off for some much-needed sleep.
g'night!
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:50,
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g'night!

and stick it on the internet for free, you dont have to worry about people nicking it, and people buy the book when it comes out anyway.
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:37,
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Which ever way you do go dude..... hope you get it done the way you want it done.... and hopefully make lots of money too.. ;-)
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:44,
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Or break a couple of decent sized bones and sit and do it in hospital.
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:04,
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A good idea. Break a femur going bungee jumping drunk. You have the fun of getting pissed, probably have the fun of the bungee jumping though you won't remember, *and* break your leg. Or do what a friend of mine did. Get pissed, fall over the barrier at Liverpool St., wake up at the Royal London being interviewed by the police, and spend a fortnight in hospital on morphine.
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:27,
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I hope you manage it somehow.
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Sun 4 Sep 2011, 22:24,
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They ARE taking the piss, these joker publishers. Cynical as fuck. But if you fancy it, do it.
And sit aghast as they refuse your phone calls when they sell 1,000,000 copies for £1 - £2 via every shit discount outlet going, and you're stuck with £3k you've already spent, and no intellectual property rights.
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Mon 5 Sep 2011, 1:00,
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And sit aghast as they refuse your phone calls when they sell 1,000,000 copies for £1 - £2 via every shit discount outlet going, and you're stuck with £3k you've already spent, and no intellectual property rights.

there would need to be some editing to weed out the CDC's and such stuff.
but it could mean that you only actually have to do a quarter of the actuall work.
also, if you're coming up with the ideas as well as the illustrations then a flat rate doesn't sit right with me.i want a royalty as well as contol over what other medium they might want to port the format into in the future.
just a thought.
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Mon 5 Sep 2011, 9:56,
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but it could mean that you only actually have to do a quarter of the actuall work.
also, if you're coming up with the ideas as well as the illustrations then a flat rate doesn't sit right with me.i want a royalty as well as contol over what other medium they might want to port the format into in the future.
just a thought.