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# ha
topical

I just installed an SSD in an Amiga A1200
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:28, archived)
# Does an Amiga A1200 need a SSD?
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:30, archived)
# well it needs* a hard drive,
and the one it had must be at least 15 years old so I was scared it was going to stop working at some point.

*I say "need", well it doesn't if you just want to play games from a floppy disk I suppose. Chances of any floppy disks still working these days are getting slimmer, also the floppy drive is definitely on its way out.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:33, archived)
# I have a box of over 500 3.5 inch floppies in my office.
That sounds more sinister than it is.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:39, archived)
# LIES!
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:32, archived)
# proof

(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:34, archived)
# Shopped pictures only.....
Wouldnt it be cheaper to just buy one of those floppy SD card jobbies?
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:37, archived)
# I've got one of those coming, as well,
but no they're not cheaper. And not a substitute for a hard drive.

That one there was about £55 from Amazon. You can get cheaper than that though, you can get CF card interfaces with a 4Gb CF card for about £25. The Floppy drive emulator is £69. Generic PC ones are no good because it's a different interface.

(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:42, archived)
# AHHHHHHHhhhhhhh
I had no idea SSDs had got so cheap...
I wouldnt mind one just for windows to live on.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:46, archived)
# It's only 4Gb,
which is more than I'll ever need. You can spend a lot on one for a PC, the price goes up exponentially with size. But you can get 128Gb for under £100 these days.

A 44 pin IDE one is obviously a bit more specialist, but it's industrial grade and SLC so it ought to last.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:49, archived)
# I may have to dig my 1200 out of my mothers loft.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:10, archived)
# I've only got a Spectrum 128k +2A in my parents loft :(
I don't think I'll be able to do the same with it
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:12, archived)
# Last time I revved up my +3 the disk drive just made funny clunking noises :(
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:20, archived)
# :(
The spring on my tape deck died a long time ago but I think that's basically fine. It's the video output is shafted. I actually have a +2 up there too where I think the tape deck's fucked but the video output is fine. Maybe I should take the two apart and play around with them when I'm staying with my parents over Christmas.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:49, archived)
# Sounds like the rubber band broke
No, really. Common failing on the Amstrad drives is the drive belt perishing. Used to be able to get replacement ones on fleabay, if you're interested in fixing it.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 19:14, archived)
# Yeah...
I remember reading something about that...
Ahh primitive 80's elastic band technology.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 20:02, archived)
# Yes you can!
E.g. using this.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 20:45, archived)
# Have you people never heard of emulators?
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:13, archived)
# yes but it's like dressing a dog up like a rabbit,
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:16, archived)
# I have both
My rabbit is still in the loft gathering dust
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:23, archived)
# Well no, it's like getting a simulated rabbit,
instead of getting a rabbit, deciding you don't like it the way it is, pulling its guts out and replacing them and several of its limbs with those of a greyhound in order to make it run faster.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:23, archived)
# now we're talking real pets.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:25, archived)
# I don't see the point of emulators,
as I always have the loading on realtime.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:21, archived)
# they're not the same,
and I actually prefer my Amiga to my PC. I'd emulate my PC on my Amiga rather than the other way round, if that were possible.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:28, archived)
# PC gone mad
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:31, archived)
# Ooh - would that work on an ST or just the Miggy?
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:16, archived)
# the floppy drive emulator I'm getting
is actually made by an ST enthusiast, so yes it definitely works for that.

I don't know what STs have hard-drive wise but there's a lot going on in the ST scene these days I believe.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:19, archived)
# I've seen those.
I assumed you'd replaced the floppy with an SSD, but maybe not.

The ST has some weird non-standard stuff going on with external floppies or hard drives. I don't know which would make more sense to hack, but I'd rather leave the floppy drive itself alone. I gather things can be done with the cartridge port, but I think you still need a boot disk to enable whatever it is it can do.

I already use a CF adaptor for my Speccies.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:56, archived)
# The A1200 and A600 were designed
to take standard 44-pin IDE laptop hard disks. This flash module is designed as a drop-in replacement for exactly that kind of hard disk, so it's quite easy. Although I did have to file a little bit off the edge of the RF modulator for it to physically fit.

The older Amiga 500s had external hard drives, I have no idea what was inside of them.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 17:05, archived)
# This is a wonderful thing.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:44, archived)
#
a wonderful thing filthy
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:45, archived)
# I concur
give that keyboard a clean, Moon Girl.

You're letting b3ta down, but mostly you're letting yourself down.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:49, archived)
# There must be laws against that.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:32, archived)
# I'd very much like to do this, any chance of a walkthrough? :)
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:52, archived)
# easiest way is probably this
amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=883

I had no boot disks or install disks, but I have a network card so I backed my old HDD up onto my PC and made a new boot disk with AmiTCP, FTP and HDTools on. If you don't have any of these things it will be rather difficult.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 15:56, archived)
# Excellent, thank you very much!
Ever tried fitting a USB port?
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:01, archived)
# I haven't,
I really need to get a USB mouse adapter though, this old ball mouse is beginning to get a pain in the arse.
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:03, archived)
# There was an old Punchinello thing way back for using PS2, dunno if it required a desktop case though.
USB would only be for mice and removable flash drives really ... gone are the days when I'm prepared to sit down with 100 blank floppies to back up my internal :(
(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:13, archived)
# this is why the network card comes in handy,
otherwise, amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=88

I have seen USB mouse adapters for sale as well, but they only work with mice, not with other devices, and then only if the mouse is secretly a PS/2 mouse inside (you know the ones that come with the little green USB to PS/2 adapter when you buy them).

Spacefish actually made me a PS/2 to Amiga mouse adapter, it's a simple enough circuit with a PIC but it stopped working.

(, Tue 11 Dec 2012, 16:23, archived)