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# The US are already on record as saying it would be a fucking stupid move to ditch the EU.
(I helped save b3ta! Smallbrainfield, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:21, archived)
# I think everyone apart from Cameron, a handful of his more mental back benchers, and Nigel Farage, is already on record as saying it would be a fucking stupid move to ditch the EU.
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:23, archived)
# I'm interested as to who would benefit if we did leave the EU.
They must have some pretty solid reasons other than not liking the French.
(I helped save b3ta! Smallbrainfield, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:29, archived)
# God Fuck the French
If we left the EU we could invade France and take back the territory that used to belong to England. From Calais, through Normandy, all the way down the coast to the Pyranees. All the lands of the Plantagenets at the height of their power, with Scotland and Wales added on to boot.

THEN we could make Europe tremble.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:31, archived)
# I think it's tradition to invade Poland first.
(I helped save b3ta! Mu Dinofiddler, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:46, archived)
# Nah, only if you're German
and even then you can go through Belgium instead. We've got a proud history of going in through Normandy.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:48, archived)
# re: Treaty of Troyes.
Though the French Crown passed to Henry V, England and France were to be ruled as separate nations, with neither having precedence over the other's customs or laws.
(I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:51, archived)
# That's absolutely fine
All we need to do is redefine the borders of "France" such that it returns to the Ile de France and loses suzerainity over Normandy and the Atlantic coast. It can negotiate with Germany and Spain over who has ownership of current-day South-West France. So long as there's a polity called "France" which is identifiably the descendent of the "France" that signed the treaty, all will be fine.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 14:10, archived)
# Not liking the French
is a good enough reason.
(I helped save b3ta! TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:35, archived)
# Why would anybody invade France baffles me.
It's full of French.
(smellysamlyingcable Seaman on, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:04, archived)
# France without French can be a nice place
I know, i live there.
(VieuxConAigri is French, throw rocks at him, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:59, archived)
# Sadly, there's no shortage of people
who'd overturn European labour laws as quickly as they could, on the basis that it's the right of a free-born Englishman to be worked every hour god sends for a pittance.
(I helped save b3ta! Enzyme is powered by sunlight, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:52, archived)
# I don't think Cameron is seriously in argument that ditching the EU would be a fucking stupid move
His public persona may be different, and his private view might be that we'd be better off without the spics and the frogs and the dagos and the kraut, but I think professionally he has to know it would be suicide.

God I think I'm getting idealistic in my old age.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:29, archived)
# Dave wants us to stay IN
But he's getting bullied by the party to get us out.

But it's also a massive early election policy he knows will get him headlines and votes, and then not follow through with it (as Tony Blair did)
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:31, archived)
# Cameron will be campaigning on the stay in side
People like Bob Crow and others in the left will be on the other.
(I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:51, archived)
# With a name like Bob Crow he should really be a half indian trapper with a fur hat living in the wilds of Canada.
(I helped save b3ta! Smallbrainfield, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:06, archived)
# Back when I took public transport that's where I would have liked to see him placed.
Now I drive I quite like the guy.
(I helped save b3ta! Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:12, archived)
# If only.
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 13:39, archived)