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(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:38, archived)
# HA!
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:39, archived)
# its a pic i just made for a seminar thing i have tomorrow
i have to talk about said damien hirst work. you seem smart... what are your thoughts and opinions ?

it seems i havent prepaired anything.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:42, archived)
# Well.
It's a pickled shark.

You could copy the BBC news and mention how this year's turner prize entries are less shocking (though still strange) than previous Turner-nominated artworks such as this shark. Perhaps being shocking is passé. Might get some mileage out of that.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:46, archived)
# i dunno
its rotting away. which is isnteresting i suppose.. brings up issues of value.. originality... idea over substance... fuck knows.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:48, archived)
# That's all good
if you want to busk it.
If you feel compelled to think of something truly meaningful to say about it, though ... you might be in trouble.
It's conceptual art, which is where the artist shoves something in your face and says "this is art" and you recoil slightly and say "oh right" and look dubious. Duchamp did it first with his urinal. This pickled shark is a more interesting object than a urinal. But most of the value of conceptual art comes from not expecting it. An endless series of irrelevant objects labelled as art would become boring fast (and in fact have, and this is called "The Tate Modern").
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:50, archived)
# i have to talk
about the philosophical ideas surrounding it.. as well as maybe an opinion or two... shouldnt be too hard.. especially with my funny as hell picture of giraffe.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:01, archived)
# Wikipedia says his older son is called Connor.
So... just go ask your dad why he pickled a shark.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:04, archived)
# come to think of it
my dad is actually damien hirst. cheers felix.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:10, archived)
# Doh. It's always the obvious things you miss.
I think maybe Hirst meant the title of the piece seriously. Which is hard to believe, since it's a shark. But I think he thinks he's really communicating something about being frustrated with the fact that he's going to die, and wanting to live forever, which seems to be the sort of thing that bothers him philosophically. That and other human limitations like not being omnipresent, not being friends with everybody in the world, and little things like that.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:13, archived)
# (s)omeone liv(ing)
backwards is

"vile? no - emo!"

qed.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:20, archived)
# i sort of got the serious thing as well.
its not stritctly postmodern in the sense of just being bold and random to take the piss out of modernism.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:21, archived)
# Possibly the difficulty of identifying with a shark
relates to the "impossibility of death in the mind".
I notice that it doesn't work at all without the title to hint at an explanation. Maybe it would be good if a whole bunch of conceptual artists gave different titles to the same object. Would save space and money. Bargain.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:32, archived)
# you have given me a few little thoughts anyways
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:46, archived)
# We're
so helpful here
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:14, archived)
# If
you can get a copy of Sundays independant there is an interview with him in the magazine.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:51, archived)
# he studied
just down the road, here in Leeds.
In part of what is now the dental hospital which looks like a decayed molar.
They use formaldehyde to store medical and dental specimens, as well as sharks.
He designed a bar that looked like a chemist's.
There's a pub called the Fenton, which used to have blobby wallpaper a bit like the spot paintings but with fewer colours.
So mebbe a lot's just found or half-remembered rather than imagined.
Good businessman, though.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:01, archived)
# did he work in the dentists ?
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:03, archived)
# not that i know of.
the dental school/hospital is part of Leeds Uni, but at first they didn't have enough dental students to fill it so they lent some of it to Art.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:05, archived)
# Hahaha
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:40, archived)
# that's your
history of art homework, that is.
woo
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:41, archived)
# hahahhahaha
hahahahhahaha
*breath*
hahahahhah*cough*

(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:42, archived)
# Oh yes.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:43, archived)
# I'd rather see a live giraffe
than a dead fish
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:47, archived)
# like it
yay
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 0:56, archived)
# Haha
I like.
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:16, archived)
# *nominates for Turner*
(, Tue 18 Oct 2005, 1:17, archived)