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# OK folks
I am an idiot. Right. That's that out of the way. I kinda like the stuff that is put on here as 'vectorized'. This didn't turn out anything like what you peeps do. I tried selecting different areas according to shade and painting them but that really did look a right disaster. This is just desaturated (except for the eyes) and then rasterized as a logo rather than a photo. My question is this - what in the name of jumping Jesus should I be doing?!





slightly larger original
(I helped save b3ta! Neffer Vossent rues the day, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 9:59, archived)
# Get inkscape, that should start you off! :D
So that's pretty much a filtered version of a vector, right?
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:00, archived)
# A 'filtered' vector, eh?
Buggered if I know! Sorry. I am probably wasting you good folks time. I'll google inkscape later and see what it's all about. Thanks for that. :)
(I helped save b3ta! Neffer Vossent rues the day, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:02, archived)
# Inkscape is a free vector program :)
I use it for things like this:

Click for bigger
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:04, archived)
# This should get you going the fastest.
www.heathrowe.com/tuts/vector.asp
(I helped save b3ta! Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:05, archived)
# Bah
I don't like that tutorial.
No particular reason why, I just don't like it.
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:06, archived)
# The car as subject perhaps?
[/;-)
(I helped save b3ta! Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:08, archived)
# I don't expect so,
but it could be.
But it's also not how I'd do a vector anyway.
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:11, archived)
# Good Gilmour!
I'll look at that tutorial anyway. Some sense of what I need to do must be better than none. Thanks for that er thingummywatchaname* (sorry hit reply before registering siggies). Now for a ciggie and so to bed. Nytol!

*Edit: Tahkcalb
(I helped save b3ta! Neffer Vossent rues the day, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:14, archived)
# Cya, clan's right that there are other ways too.
Gaz me later, I'm off soon too, if you want more links.
(I helped save b3ta! Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:18, archived)
# ^This
And also, here is a psd of a vector I did recently.
Not my usual style, but I wanted to try one of Logovend's 7-shape vectors and they're pretty good :D
http://www.deagostini.co.uk/ilovehorses/
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:22, archived)
# Woooo!
And truly my hero, too. Since 1976 Atomhenge tour! Excellent stuff whatever the subject. Er, does 'Gaz' mean use the message link in profiles? If so I am a gazzable fellow.
(I helped save b3ta! Neffer Vossent rues the day, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:31, archived)
# It was my mate's birthday yesterday, and he's really into Hawkwind too,
so I promised him a vector of Dave Brock :)

And yes, it does. If you need any help, feel free to contact me or Tahkcalb.
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:33, archived)
# Wilko! and cheers.
:)
(I helped save b3ta! Neffer Vossent rues the day, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:36, archived)
# No problem.
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:41, archived)
# just get some tracing paper and trace a photo
it is a pointless waste of time unless it is cognative therepy and you are a mental
(I helped save b3ta! mongychops, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:23, archived)
# A Vector is an image created with a vector package
like Adobe Illustrator, Corel Xara or Inkscape. The images are created using spline based tools that remain perfectly smooth no matter how far you zoom in.

A normal Paint, Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro image (and the one you've drawn) is called a Raster image. it is simply made up of pixels.

/very simplified explanation blog

more understanding here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_graphics
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:29, archived)
# Aha!
Thanks for that. I thought they were just different terms for the same thing. D'uh!
(I helped save b3ta! Neffer Vossent rues the day, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:32, archived)
# nope
two completely different ways of creating an image.

like calculating mathematically versus throwing paint at a canvas
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:33, archived)
# you can use vectors in Photoshop
but they're not as powerful as in illustrator, and tend to be horridly anti-aliased
(Canazza is mostly listening to Yes, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:34, archived)
# do you mean it's aliased then?
a vector is always perfectly anti-aliased

and I know (or I thought that) Photoshop has vector capabailities, Paint Shop Pro does, but why confuse matters when writing a very simple explanation?
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:35, archived)
# Photoshop doesn't do vectors...they might look like them but they're not
if it's made in photoshop it's called a Vexel and can't be resized without loss to the image

if it's made in Illustrator then it's a true vector and can be resized to the size of the moon without loss to the image!

:)
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:43, archived)
# Ah, but that's only the final image.
Paths, for example, and text are still vectors even in photoshop, you see.
Also: 'Ning!
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:45, archived)
# YOU DON'T GET VECTORS IN PHOTOSHOP!!

Vector paths doesn't make them fucking vector images for the last time,
photoshop makes Vexels

Vector + Pixel = Vexel.

(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:55, archived)
# "Ah, but that's only the final image."
You can't make a vector graphic, but Photoshop DOES use vectors.
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:59, archived)
# you're a fucking idiot.
the only thing that's close to a vector in photoshop is the text, that's it!

NOTHING ELSE.

the end.
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:05, archived)
# This seems like an important argument I'm glad I don't understand it!
(mushroom mushroom, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:06, archived)
# As I said! It DOES use vectors.
And I did say the text, didn't I?
And paths are vectors until you stroke/fill them.
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:06, archived)
# they are not true vectors then, ya fucking mong

(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:08, archived)
# I never said it was a true vector!
\o/ early morning arguments!
Love ya really.
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:13, archived)
# fuck off...idiot
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:15, archived)
# :)
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:16, archived)
# no you said
"Paths, for example, are still vectors"

No they aren't, a vector, in this context is the spline based coloured-in result that makes a vector image. As opposed to a Raster Image

A path is a path, yes it's spline based with bezier controls, but IT IS A PATH!!!
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:18, archived)
# I ALREADY SAID YOU BOTH WIN!!
:D
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:20, archived)
# vectors schmectors!
(I helped save b3ta! op op op op op I stink therfore I spam, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:24, archived)
# what do we win?
do we get a prize for simply trying to help you understand the difference in terminology of something?
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:26, archived)
# Yes.
A big sloppy kiss.
*blindfolds*
*hires Jade Goody*
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:32, archived)
# then that's not actually a vector is it
its a path that Photoshop at some point will colour in.

Vectors are the finished line, exportable as a vector image like an swf or svg file (not a raster one)

slightly pedantic but very true
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:10, archived)
# thank fuck..someone else who knows what he's talking about
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:11, archived)
# Ok, fine, you win.
I have lost!
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:15, archived)
# :P
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:19, archived)
# I love my job!
I'm sitting here whilst two extremely cute Swedish girls eat their breakfast clad only in the skimpiest night clothes:D
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:30, archived)
# photos now!!!!
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:31, archived)
# photos or its not happening
(other than in all our minds right now)
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:32, archived)
# We demand photographical proofs.
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:35, archived)
# perv.
OK I'll try.:P

EDIT: Soirta managed to do it but can't find the cable of my phone:P
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:38, archived)
# omgnowai
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:43, archived)
# you had better find that cable mister!!

*glares*
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:44, archived)
# Found it you want to see the picture?
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:47, archived)
# Uh-oh..
this sounds too good to be true..
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:50, archived)
# Didn't come out very well as I was trying to be sneaky

(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:52, archived)
# Hahahah!
You should just ask "Can you lovely ladies pose for a second? I want to put you on the internet"
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:53, archived)
# one for the blur fetishists...

(I helped save b3ta! pzyko Query failed., Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:54, archived)
# hahah!
is that the underside of a breakfast table?
you big perv! (try again try again!)
(I helped save b3ta! op op op op op I stink therfore I spam, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:47, archived)
# HURRY! TIME FOR MORNING FWAP ALMOST OVER!

(I helped save b3ta! pzyko Query failed., Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:48, archived)
# What on earth is your job?!
:-)
(mushroom mushroom, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:48, archived)
# He runs a hostel :)
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:50, archived)
# He runs a hostel and he's taking photos of his half naked female guests and posting them on the internet?
wtf?
(mushroom mushroom, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:51, archived)
# Hahah yes
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:07, archived)
# thats not right
(mushroom mushroom, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:08, archived)
# Hence the blur.
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:17, archived)
# he said it was because he was trying to be sneaky
(mushroom mushroom, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:18, archived)
# No, it's because it's wrong to put pictures of people on the internet
without their permission.
And on a site like this, it's a very bad idea.
Calm down, we all know that. Just messing around :)
(I helped save b3ta! ClanSoul, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 11:20, archived)
# Download Inkscape....it's free
www.inkscape.org/download/?lang=en
(I helped save b3ta! CanonCaliber A big bore, Sat 8 Mar 2008, 10:50, archived)