subtle, but funny, even given the story./still uneasy about seeing all this utter glee and forwarding of these details on here.
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The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 16:51,
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I read your conversation on /links and you changed my mind. the_rhyme_minister has a little bit of gold and a pager,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 16:52,
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While in principle it's a strong weapon in 'mocking' the BNP and their extreme right wing views in general termsby doing it at the expense of circulating personal data, which has now been
used to enact malicious and threatening phone calls, and using the 'but it's the
BNP, they deserve it' card is quite unsettling. After all, I suspect a majority of the members on that list exercise their opinions
in a voting booth, and not in the extreme rallies and hate-mongering sites which a few more prominent members participate in.
After all, let's try and think who these members might be? possibly a high number of 'older' generation people who cling
to the 'good old days'. Just because they hold these views from old, they don't deserve threatening phone calls from so-called
'liberal thinking and more tolerant' persons.
Another 'small' point. The list has probably 10,000 active members once you whittle it down.
Labour has around 190,000, and look what they've done in terms of taking us to an illegal war while in power.
If the list was published of their members, would the liberals all be advocating threatening behaviour for any
blood that might be on these members hands? No, of course not.
(used to enact malicious and threatening phone calls, and using the 'but it's the
BNP, they deserve it' card is quite unsettling. After all, I suspect a majority of the members on that list exercise their opinions
in a voting booth, and not in the extreme rallies and hate-mongering sites which a few more prominent members participate in.
After all, let's try and think who these members might be? possibly a high number of 'older' generation people who cling
to the 'good old days'. Just because they hold these views from old, they don't deserve threatening phone calls from so-called
'liberal thinking and more tolerant' persons.
Another 'small' point. The list has probably 10,000 active members once you whittle it down.
Labour has around 190,000, and look what they've done in terms of taking us to an illegal war while in power.
If the list was published of their members, would the liberals all be advocating threatening behaviour for any
blood that might be on these members hands? No, of course not.
The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 16:56,
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This is absolutely right.Nothing can be gained from circulating this list.
What if the next list that gets published is freemasons? Or unmarried couples? Or people who shop on a sunday?
(What if the next list that gets published is freemasons? Or unmarried couples? Or people who shop on a sunday?
Barbarossa is not my real name,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 16:58,
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I agreehowever much people dislike a group, harassing them directly is just as prejudiced and intolerant.
They are unlikely to change their views because someone threatens them, rather seek safety in their particular herd, with some justification.
(They are unlikely to change their views because someone threatens them, rather seek safety in their particular herd, with some justification.
FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector.,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:10,
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and this makes the situation play into their handsbecause the more they get to play the part of a 'victim' in this, through the threatening
behavour, the more sympathy they will generate once Griffin and co. start spouting general
principles of law which we all abide by, and how it's being broken in this instance by what is
happening. They may well end up with more people sympathetitc to their 'cause' through this once the dust settles a bit.
(behavour, the more sympathy they will generate once Griffin and co. start spouting general
principles of law which we all abide by, and how it's being broken in this instance by what is
happening. They may well end up with more people sympathetitc to their 'cause' through this once the dust settles a bit.
The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:20,
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YESpeople who feel victimised will frequently try to find someone 'worse' than them, to feel better as a individual or group. The 'I'm OK you're not OK' position; hence the BNP targeting 'deprived' areas where more people are desperate to find someone to blame.
*Reels* an adult conversation on /board and I haven't been called a cunt yet
(*Reels* an adult conversation on /board and I haven't been called a cunt yet
FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector.,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:30,
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"hence the BNP targeting 'deprived' areas"and hence the Sun selling for only 30p
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Manic can teach you the secret of fire,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:50,
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hahaha, well said The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 18:16,
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Quite, education (not just passing exams) is an answer.Sadly that doesn't fit the capitalist/consumerist agenda either.
( FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector.,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 18:16,
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They are unlikey to change their views fullstop!The BNP is a front for Far-Right Extremists who financers are highly motivated people they use demagogy to play upon people's fears but their ultimate agenda is to destroy Trade Unions and reduce the Working Class to slave labour market. Nonetheless we can pat ourself on the back for our high ideals about divulging information but will they be so open minded when they are constantly seeking information of the Left groups. Hitler came to power using Democracy to destroy democracy - at some point we will ahve to fight these fascists whether it means sacrificing our preconceptions of always doing the "right thing".
There was a poem and whilst I don't know it off heart it goes something like.
"First they came for the Trade Unionists - I was not a Trade Unionists so I did nothing.
They came for the Gays and Lesbians and I was not one of them so I did nothing.
They then came for the Jews and I wasn't Jewish so I did nothing.
They came for the disabled and I was not disabled so I did nothing.
Then they came for me, but there was nobody left to fight for me..."
(There was a poem and whilst I don't know it off heart it goes something like.
"First they came for the Trade Unionists - I was not a Trade Unionists so I did nothing.
They came for the Gays and Lesbians and I was not one of them so I did nothing.
They then came for the Jews and I wasn't Jewish so I did nothing.
They came for the disabled and I was not disabled so I did nothing.
Then they came for me, but there was nobody left to fight for me..."
maiden is filmed before a live studio audience,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:23,
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I don't see them coming for anybody.I see a load of morons hurling abuse by illegal means at people whose political views they disagree with.
( chenobble rocking his explorer beard on,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:35,
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That's the frontit's not the knobheads who front the organisation who are the ones in control it's their paymasters who you don't see. If you really think the BNP is poltically neutral and nothing more than a bunch of bigotted idiots then they have succeeded in their aims. I for one would not like to see them ever get into a position of power as you will see the face of the BNP rapidly changed from morons to out and out fascists.
( maiden is filmed before a live studio audience,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:38,
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Politically neutral?whoever suggested that?
They're clearly rabidly right-wing fascists, I just don't feel like becoming an intolerant bigoted idiot myself would really be an effective way of fighting them.
(They're clearly rabidly right-wing fascists, I just don't feel like becoming an intolerant bigoted idiot myself would really be an effective way of fighting them.
chenobble rocking his explorer beard on,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:44,
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They suggest that they are neutraland people are beginning to believe them.
( maiden is filmed before a live studio audience,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:51,
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Sadly people who only think as far as the end of their streetor the next car/meal/job/new gadget/tv will be and are easily fooled. Wasn't it Goebbles who said it you tell a lie long enough...
(see WMDs etc.)
((see WMDs etc.)
FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector.,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 18:09,
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To be fairGays and lesbians, Jews and the disabled wouldn't be much use in a fight anyway :¬/
( Barbarossa is not my real name,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:37,
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I don't know steal a lesbian's pint or critise a gay's curtainsand you'll get you're head kicked in.
( maiden is filmed before a live studio audience,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:41,
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youre fucking joking arentyahave you ever tried picking a fight with a 6 foot 6 tranny?
( Jim_Davidson has an enormous willy,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:43,
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I'm not saying they will change their views at allthere will always be people who have a similar position. Reminding people how it happened in 1930s Germany might be more helpful or perhaps investigative journalism exposing links to 'terrorists' (useful buzz word, it worked to start the move to a police state).
( FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector.,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:41,
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Hitler came to power on a tide of demagogyand disillusionment with a Government that didn't care a toss for it's people and even sent the army in to break up strikes often shooting dead 'activists' - Hitler stated that he would used Democracy to Remove Democracy and therefore stop the rot of these psuedo-deomcratic parties from taking power only to ignore the needs of the people. In that respect he was correct and unfortanely people actually thought what he offered was a better solution that the mediocracy of a Government of self-important tossers. Whilst our own government is no where near that stage just yet, they are becoming more and more beaucratic and sooner of later we are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past as parasites like the BNP will feed of this disillusionment until the time is right. Maybe it won't be the BNP but it may be a splinter faction just Like Hitler broke from the Fascist movement in Germany to form his own ideals of fascism which would be known as Nazism or National Socialism a bastardization of Socialism to fool the workers into think Hitler was one of them.
( maiden is filmed before a live studio audience,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:49,
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Then againwe now have their contact details, maybe we could kick them out of the country or perhaps herd them into specific estates to er, concentrate the problem in small areas...Oh wait, hasn't this been tried before.
( FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector.,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 18:11,
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always been unhappy that membership of a political party can get you firedno matter what party
( emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 16:53,
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I back you all the way on thatusing personal data as a form of intimidation is unseemly, unhelpful, and undemocratic
( Manic can teach you the secret of fire,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 16:54,
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And let's never ever imagine that should the BNP get into powerthat they would be doing precisely this with the membership lists of left-wing and any other organisations deemed as subversive...
While I can't agree with the divulging of information, and the likelihood that BNP getting into power is slim to negliable, let's hope that they feel the same way when they have all our information!
(While I can't agree with the divulging of information, and the likelihood that BNP getting into power is slim to negliable, let's hope that they feel the same way when they have all our information!
maiden is filmed before a live studio audience,
Wed 19 Nov 2008, 17:02,
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