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# sorry to thread jack
but below was a veal conversation and I just need to point out that veal crates are illegal in the EU now so eating veal is basically the same as eating lamb if it is EU produced (n.b. the flavour is different)
(Goatse not a comedy account, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:20, archived)
# Whatever
As long as it involves upsetting hippies then its fine by me.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:21, archived)
# I read that as hippos
and felt myself agreeing
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:32, archived)
# I knew they were illegal in the UK but I didn't know they were illegal on the mainland too.
Hoorj! That doesn't stop retailers importing crated veal from elsewhere, though, does it?
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:22, archived)
# veal and lamb come from different animals though.
in my opinion, that makes them different.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:22, archived)
# Racist?
(I helped save b3ta! Fishcat Difficult difficult lemon difficult., Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:24, archived)
# perhaps
but you can't deny the taste.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:30, archived)
# Veal tastes great
If slaughterhouses had glass walls we would all be vegetarians.

Unless you didn't live near a slaughterhouse.

Or didn't care about animal welfare.

I'm rambling. Is it lunchtime yet?
(I helped save b3ta! Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:24, archived)
# I have seen animals slaughtered,
and it has never bothered me in the slightest.

If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:28, archived)
# what about vegetables?
their living conditions are dirty.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:29, archived)
# Ha
y'loon
(I helped save b3ta! Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:31, archived)
# It was proved recently that plants DO display stress and trauma
when chopped etc...so that kind of fucks this whole bizarre 'don't want them to suffer' thing.
Unnecessary suffering=why?!
Every existing creature=has to eat
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:31, archived)
# pfft
I'd love to see a moral vegetarian's reaction to the stress incurred by plants. :D
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:33, archived)
# Anaesthetising a marrow, and then trying to swallow it whole?
(I helped save b3ta! IHaveABadFeelingAboutThis most likely working from home on, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:47, archived)
# Even if plants could suffer as much as animals,
we still need to eat them to survive. We don't need to eat much if any meat, so minimising meat in the diet still reduces unnecessary suffering.
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:39, archived)
# We need to eat both to be healthy
Luckily the healthiest balance is more veg/fruit and less meat, but that's what I aim for anyway. Eating all meat or all veg is just not what we're designed for
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:44, archived)
# I beg to differ.
I've been vegan for five years and haven't had any health problems stemming from it. I've had my blood checked to make sure I've still got all the normal levels of everything.

I bet the Inuit (or whoever it is that eats only raw meat) would beg to differ as well. Human bodies are very adaptable.
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:48, archived)
# Yeah, I edited the 'ill' thing off because it causes such controversy
What I really meant was 'in my experience and therefore opinion it leads to health problems' but I realised that I really, really don't want to get into a debate and need to get off the board anyway.

Your diet is your own business anyway, I currently eat way too many meals out due to a generally lazy lifestyle, that's pretty bad for me but I'd object to anyone other than my doctor telling me to change
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:53, archived)
# I aim for 'minimise suffering to the fullest extent that your circumstances and sanity permit'.
People in developing countries can't very well go vege, because they don't have access to as big a range of foods as we do. People in semi-deserts can't either, because there is no fucking vegetation where they live. And I did eat fish last time I went to France, because they just plain don't understand the concept of veganism.

I also take prescription meds which have a gelatine coating - I need the meds, and there isn't a non-gelatine-coated version available.
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:58, archived)
# Very similar to me
except I've decided on the other side of the divide due to other considerations.

Anyway, I'm off now but I've just realised why your name is purple, I really like your demon pics. Pretty sure I've told you that before but it can't hurt to be reminded ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 13:05, archived)
# :D Thank you.
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 13:10, archived)
# Its OK to kill something
if it doesn't have eyes, seems to be veggie logic
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:34, archived)
# + more generic hand-wringing and worrying about things that are bourne out of the affluence of modern society
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:38, archived)
# What about cave fish and golden moles?
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:40, archived)
# Not true
My mum raises her own lambs and chickens, best meat I eat
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:29, archived)
# do they taste better higher up?
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:30, archived)
# Oh yes
Something to do with oxygen quality I'm led to understand.

It's a bit gruesome when they occasionally fall though
(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:35, archived)
# :)
I like the idea of raising animals. It would confuse them at first, but they'd get used to it.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:37, archived)
# One of my early 'Woo's
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(I helped save b3ta! Jessie © needs pirate name suggestions, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:40, archived)
# haha :D
excellent.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:42, archived)
# If slaughterhouses had glass walls
None of their employees would go to the khazi!
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:31, archived)
# or WOULD they?
"Slaughtermen in live scat show shocker"
Stop this filth now...
(I helped save b3ta! Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:32, archived)
# You mean
Skid row for animal skid row?
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:41, archived)
# so people are now telling you what you can and can't eat?
for what reason?

they can get fucked.
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:27, archived)
# It all depends on the colour of the veal
If it is white veal then it has been raised in a confined environment and over fed, however if it is pink veal then it has been raised in a pasture and fed normally.
(I helped save b3ta! bobzarkoff, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:30, archived)
# I don't like meat, but I eat it out of principle

because animals are cunts
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:32, archived)
# Office LOL right here
right now
(I helped save b3ta! Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:34, archived)
# hahahahaha
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:35, archived)
# Pfft!
(I helped save b3ta! Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:36, archived)
# Pfffft!
(I helped save b3ta! Bob Todd whee, Tue 9 Dec 2008, 12:45, archived)