All I know is
If there was a referendum wether we should have had a referendum, then I would have voted no... because everyone has got on my tits during the process, and it's all a fucking irritating shitstorm of bullshit...
so with that logic, i'm going to vote remain... because that's close to the status quo before everyone became a fucking politics/economics/guessing expert.
The only thing I know is that after this... I fucking hate referendums and i'm glad i don't live in switzerland... how the fuck do they get anything done?
most of the people I actually meet, you wouldn't trust with a blunt pair of fucking scissors... but suddenly they are qualified to make a major economic/political decision?
fuck off, fuck your referendum and fuck all of your opinions (not you personally)
i'm going to get drunk in the garden and shout at the neighbours kids.
(, Sat 11 Jun 2016, 11:03, Share, Reply)
Referendums are a fucking joke
We vote in politicians precisely so we don't have to have them. What's the point of a government if we're just going to decide (poorly) ourselves?
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Sat 11 Jun 2016, 11:26,
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If my doctor said
you've got cancer, that's not good, I can treat you one of 2 ways, both have drawbacks and benefits....
But i'm not going to talk you through it, instead i'm going to have vested interests sell each treatment to you whilst simultaneously lying about the other treatment
I think i'd rather just die.
(, Sat 11 Jun 2016, 11:29, Share, Reply)
Yes mate.
Because the politicians are super clever experts who are so superior to us plebs. Politicians never collectively make a stupid decision. That invasion of Iraq was really really good. If we'd had a referendum on that the wonderful thing might not have happened.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 11 Jun 2016, 12:23,
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Actually
Polls at the time of the invasion showed the majority of the UK population was in favour of invading Iraq. It's only after the invasion did the public change their minds.
Similarly, the last big referendum was on adopting the alternate vote. Despite being a vastly superior way to conduct elections, the public were easily swayed to vote against it by the press. And then our election in 2015 saw the conservatives get in with only just over a third of the voters support. Interesting lessons there.
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maninahat Too many cocks spoil the brothel., Sun 12 Jun 2016, 0:07,
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we were in favour, and would've voted to invade
because evidence shown to us, or made available to us, was untrue, falsified, incorrect or made up.
Sure, 'after the event' everyone says we shouldnt've gone to war but because of lies told we would have agreed to the invasion. Thats why Blair needs to be held to account over the whole thing.
(, Sun 12 Jun 2016, 1:38, Share, Reply)
^This, those polls were based on the publics reaction to media coverage and the "dossier"
The sooner Chilcot reports the better.
Though from what i've heard Blair's going to get off relatively easy and Straws going to be the fall guy.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Sun 12 Jun 2016, 6:57,
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