Sue the scouts!
Oh look, both parents are lawyers...
Volunteering with kids is difficult and while the VOLUNTEERS might have made mistakes with the autistic kid, suing a VOLUNTARY organisation for £42k is a cunt move
(, Mon 26 Mar 2018, 10:10, Share, Reply)
Yes, voluntary organisations should be unaccountable for their actions.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 26 Mar 2018, 10:13,
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Not saying that
£42k for not being able to cope with an child with special needs? Parents treat these organisations like private child care.
(, Mon 26 Mar 2018, 10:34, Share, Reply)
In the court's judgment they were able to cope, or perhaps you're privy to some inside information about the case that the court wasn't?
And again, if some of the parents send their children to scouts not for their child's betterment but for temporary relief from parental supervision as you claim, does this mean the organisation is then unaccountable for their actions? Is this the point you're trying to make?
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 26 Mar 2018, 10:56,
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having said that, 42K would substantial impact the scouts' paedophilia legal defence fund they have set aside for the inevitable allegations
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 26 Mar 2018, 11:04,
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All right, sorry for mentioning it
I promise not to do so again and will keep my opinions to myself in future
Thank you for correcting me
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KgAilTTZnQ
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 26 Mar 2018, 11:22,
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He made it pretty clear his point was the parents were cunts
Nothing like your highfalutin privy information betterment and unaccountable temporary relief bullshit.
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So Sweet
I think it's lovely how you have such great faith in our very broken court system. In my own experience being right by law is no match for an expensive barrister, and frankly there are very few lawyers who I wouldn't want to gratuitously go fuck themselves. But that's just my opinion and you are welcome to your's, however wrong it might be.
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The story says they donated some to a local autism charity
...which seems to mitigate the idea that they’re cunts; it’s fair to give cash to a charity that wont discriminate.
I’ve worked with autistic kids and adults for 18 years in schools, playschemes, care homes, day centres, all sorts of places. And honestly, the biggest red flag that any organisation is going to be a backwards thinking shit hole with no business working with disabled people (whether a big charity or a small department in a school) is when the instinct is to exclude disabled kids who can be difficult at times.
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Why do they get any money at all?
Why will an apology and pledge to improve things not suffice?
I wonder how many of that Scout group's leaders have thought "fuck this" and stopped doing it?
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The dafty should have just been dissolved at birth. Darwinism works.
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Flash_Bastard, Tue 27 Mar 2018, 12:06,
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What's the problem? How else was the kid going to get his Vexatious Little Litigator badge?
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 26 Mar 2018, 11:11,
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ha!
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 26 Mar 2018, 11:16,
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I'm conflicted here. On one hand autistic kids should be integrated and allowed to join group activities... On the other hand they are allowed to behave like fucking unbelievable tyrants, taking the attention time and care of a huge number of supervisors and completely disrupting other kids and showing those kids that yep the rules don't apply to some people, just you.
Why didn't they volunteer and help their son integrate into the environment rather than handing all responsibility to randoms and then sue?
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Mon 26 Mar 2018, 13:08,
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Two couples I know have very autistic kids. They work their asses off to ensure that their kids understand the environment, the supervisors and (as much as is possible) how to work within that environment......
Where did personal responsibility get replaced by..whatever these parents are doing?
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DinivanX Has stinging piss after drinking Pact Coffee, Mon 26 Mar 2018, 13:39,
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Exactly
Integration works only if the child does not disrupt the other children. This is writen into the Special Educational Needs code and protects all parents' rights.
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The_cold_stare Coming here only when very, very bored, Mon 26 Mar 2018, 14:38,
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exactly
to Sue an organisation like this who is just trying to do the right thing to develop kids is not a great start to a kids life.
Im sure a £1 claim would have sufficed and a lessons learned built out of it. But i know from experience that 42k is alot of money for such an organisation. I can see alot of volunteers walking away for want for limited exposure to risks of claims. what were the parents thinking?
(, Tue 27 Mar 2018, 10:03, Share, Reply)
Its not that they’re “allowed to” behave a certain way...
... it’s that approaches geared around how to address bad behaviour in kids without autism literally do not work, at all.
From layman’s perspective, I can totally see how people might think that it would be disruptive and seem massively unfair that autistic kids get away with bad behaviour and how that might negatively affect other kids) but in practice, when done right and when you have staff who are knowledgable and well trained, it can actually work really well. Children can understand when other kids are different, and if that difference is acknowledged and not played down, then generally speaking children with autism who behave “badly” cause less issues than when kids without disabilities behave badly.
Yeah, it’s sometimes difficult (I’ve been spat at in the face, punched, bitten) but if you come from a baseline idea that children with disabilities shouldn’t be locked away, and work with that rather than seeing manifestations of their problems as a trigger for excluding them, it works.
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