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This is a link post Surprised she didn't pack her bags sooner tbh

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 7:48, Reply)
This is a normal post What bit has got you riled up exactly?
Or was it just the existence of Bezos?
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 10:08, Reply)
This is a normal post You have to admit he's a prize cunt
whatever your feelings about pubeless space voyaging.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 10:34, Reply)
This is a normal post OK sure.
But this looks a bit like a case of "bitch eating crackers".

Like... look at that fucking guy. Holding a press conference about a milestone in human development. Celebrating the triumph, and happily thanking everyone who had any involvement... what a cunt!
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 10:35, Reply)
This is a normal post Replicating someething that was achieved by the Soviets in 1961
is hardly a milestone in human development.

Also, I'd be interested to hear from an Amazon warehouse hand about their intimate involvement and personal investment in turning some guy into spacespunk.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 10:58, Reply)
This is a normal post
The Soviets put Gagarin in orbit. First try. Straight to orbit.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:10, Reply)
This is a normal post A superpower government put a government working into orbit.
(worker*) That tin can he was in never did anything afterwards.

This is a private company, taking civilians into space, in a reusable rocket vehicle, as a potentially viable long-term commercial endeavour. It's a completely different milestone.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:16, Reply)
This is a normal post "Tin can" lol
When you have to disparage the previous milestones to prove this milestone is actually a milestone then you might be struggling a bit
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:33, Reply)
This is a normal post Why do you interpret that as disparaging?
It's a descriptive term... it was a disposable metal container. It is in no way disparaging of the milestone, but is comparing the primitiveness of the early vehicle with the sophistication of a modern one.

Have you ever actually engaged in a discussion in good faith? Yet again you've picked on a totally irrelevant aspect of your oppositions argument, instead of actually addressing the content therein.

Stop with the straw man and learn to steel man.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:36, Reply)
This is a normal post Hahaha

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:40, Reply)
This is a normal post Is that all you've got?

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:43, Reply)
This is a normal post I can type it all in capitals if you like

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:06, Reply)
This is a normal post I accept your surrender.

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:34, Reply)
This is a normal post It wasn't made of tin
tin has too low of a melting point.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:38, Reply)
This is a normal post Exactly!

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:53, Reply)
This is a normal post Apart from the equipment tests and launches that included animals
Also, though by now probably far less likely, some may not have survived attempts
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:30, Reply)
This is a normal post “milestone in human development”?
Pfft. Nice trolling.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:01, Reply)
This is a normal post You don't think that progressing
space technology to the point where space tourism by a private company is now an actual thing is a milestone?
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:11, Reply)
This is a normal post No.
This doesn’t progress humanity one jot.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:42, Reply)
This is a normal post Humanity
or human development?
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:44, Reply)
This is a normal post What’s the human development part of this?
Reusable rockets? SpaceX got there years ago with Falcon 9. An orbital class launcher.
Reusable capsules? SpaceX got there last year with Crew Dragon. An orbital class capsule.
Space tourism for the super rich? Dennis Tito would like a word.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:28, Reply)
This is a normal post One guy hitching a ride on government rockets
might be technically space tourism, but it isn't exactly a budding space tourism industry.

Falcon 9 is not completely reusable.

Everything we make is human development, you do realise? Your house... the leisure centre down the road. How is this ever not human development?
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:41, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, but how many of the things we build actually count as milestones?

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 13:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Are we including or excluding actual milestones?

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 15:10, Reply)
This is a normal post 1st commercially reusable tourism rocket
is not an unreasonable milestone.

I mean, it definitely took much more effort to do that, than paving 1 mile of road.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:31, Reply)
This is a normal post
*2nd
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:44, Reply)
This is a normal post Like I said...
that other one is not entirely reusable. Some parts of it need to be rebuilt between flights.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Virgin Galactic?
Not sure which bit of that system needs rebuilding between flights, but I doubt that Blue Origin would just restack and refuel without performing extensive maintenance checks.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:55, Reply)
This is a normal post Virgin Galactic
uses sub orbital space planes, with rocket engines, but they're not rockets, and it's debatable if they actually even go into space.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:56, Reply)
This is a normal post OK, so the Space Shuttle wasn't a rocket. Got it.
I don't understand why you're so wedded to the need to describe this pointless irrelevance as a milestone, while simultaneously so determined to ignore the other pointless irrelevance that successfully beat it to an arbitrary definition of space. It's like trying to argue that Charlton Athletic are the best football club in London because Leyton Orient only play in the second division.

Have you got tickets or something?
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 19:24, Reply)
This is a normal post The space shuttle wasn't a rocket.
It was also a space plane, which used a pair of independent rocket boosters to get it close enough to space for it to fly independently.

I didn't say the other things weren't milestones or even suggest that. I pointed out how they were different, and so were not THIS milestone.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 20:03, Reply)
This is a normal post hey, we get it
you've got a boner for bezos
(, Thu 22 Jul 2021, 5:05, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm surprised at you.
You don't usually surrender with this few moves. Even benny lasted longer than you.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2021, 16:46, Reply)
This is a normal post it's ok to have a man crush
you don't need to justify it
(, Fri 23 Jul 2021, 6:43, Reply)
This is a normal post And they need to replace the engine each flight, I think.

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 19:26, Reply)
This is a normal post I know they use a solid propellant,
so I guess they'd have to have some kind of replacement cartridge at the very least. As stated above though, I'd expect them to have to go through an exhaustive series of maintenance checks between each flight anyway, so I don't see that as much of a handicap.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 19:39, Reply)
This is a normal post You clearly haven't seen my house.

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 15:13, Reply)
This is a normal post Let's just see if the Vulcans spotted him
and land to make first contact with him tomorrow.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:29, Reply)
This is a normal post Is a rollercoaster a milestone in human development?
It's basically an amusement ride for rich folk. I know you can argue it's a stepping stone to bigger things, but that's stretching it. They went straight up and then came back down in ten minutes. This was already done 70 years ago.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:03, Reply)
This is a normal post See my answer to evil_andy above.

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:17, Reply)
This is a normal post When the corporations are as wealthy and powerful as many countries
it's hardly a solid argument
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:03, Reply)
This is a normal post What's that even got to do with it?
You seem to be suggesting that because an company has the resources to achieve something previous beyond all companies, it's suddenly not an achievement?

The simple fact that some companies are as powerful as some governments is itself a milestone in human development, regardless of whether anyone thinks it's a good thing or not. Such milestones don't have to be things that are good, or right, or just.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:44, Reply)
This is a normal post I guess these things are entirely subjective

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 13:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes that's certainly true!

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:25, Reply)
This is a normal post they're not subjective, though that's just how I feel

(, Thu 22 Jul 2021, 5:17, Reply)
This is a normal post You're saying a figurative concept
isn't subjective? Huh?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2021, 16:48, Reply)
This is a normal post He's thanking his min wage / min rights workforce for financing his mid life crisis
Then the room laughs at the little people. The fact that you can't see anything wrong with that really says more about you than anything else.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 10:54, Reply)
This is a normal post Just noticed the woman astronaut looks appalled by it all
So at least there's one grown-up in the room
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 10:58, Reply)
This is a normal post Not sure she looks even remotely appalled by anything to be honest.

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:22, Reply)
This is a normal post She's spent 10 minutes in an enclosed space with him
I reckon she hates him more than I do at this point
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:37, Reply)
This is a normal post You reckon eh?
Solid argument.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:41, Reply)
This is a normal post Well, he's thanking his workforce certainly.
And then the room laughs.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:23, Reply)
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Blue Origin is not Amazon. Blue Origin is funded from Bezos' own wealth, created by Amazon employees working their arses off in sweatshop conditions.

It would be like Mike Ashley thanking all his Sports Direct employees for buying him a new boat.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:39, Reply)
This is a normal post Gagarin giving a shout out to the gulags

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Well, you've set up the rules that whatever he does he's a cunt.
If he didn't thank people you'd call him a cunt for not being grateful.

So your opinion about him thanking people isn't exactly valuable, as you're starting from a position of "how can I interpret this guy's actions so that he's a cunt?"

Like I said, this is all just bitch eating crackers.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:51, Reply)
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I've never heard him talk before this, so I've got nothing else to go on. However this interview makes him look like a tone-deaf cunt.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 14:17, Reply)
This is a normal post The hills you choose to die on never cease to amaze me

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 14:34, Reply)
This is a normal post You think this is a hill to die on?
Whereas I see this as yet another opportunity to highlight the pair of giant sequoia trunks you meticulously balance on each shoulder.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:27, Reply)
This is a normal post Not sure what that means but play on

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:42, Reply)
This is a normal post Sorry was that too cryptic?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_on_shoulder
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:49, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh I see now
Thanks for the link
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 17:06, Reply)
This is a normal post No worries darling
;)
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 17:09, Reply)
This is a normal post Christ alive you are an absolute bore.

(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 22:01, Reply)
This is a normal post I like him, at least he provides a decent counterargument, even if he is trolling sometimes
and b3ta being what it is these days, it's not like we're distracting from something better
(, Thu 22 Jul 2021, 5:26, Reply)
This is a normal post And you're nothing to me,
so what of it?
Is your contribution supposed to interest people?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2021, 16:49, Reply)
This is a normal post They didn't pay for it. You did you dick.
You spent $20bn over 17 years building the world's tallest fairground ride so you could have 11 minutes of "fun". Knobhead.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:15, Reply)