What bit has got you riled up exactly?
Or was it just the existence of Bezos?
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 10:08, Reply)
You have to admit he's a prize cunt
whatever your feelings about pubeless space voyaging.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 10:34, Reply)
OK sure.
But this looks a bit like a case of "bitch eating crackers".
Like... look at that fucking guy. Holding a press conference about a milestone in human development. Celebrating the triumph, and happily thanking everyone who had any involvement... what a cunt!
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 10:35, Reply)
Replicating someething that was achieved by the Soviets in 1961
is hardly a milestone in human development.
Also, I'd be interested to hear from an Amazon warehouse hand about their intimate involvement and personal investment in turning some guy into spacespunk.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 10:58, Reply)
The Soviets put Gagarin in orbit. First try. Straight to orbit.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:10,
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A superpower government put a government working into orbit.
(worker*) That tin can he was in never did anything afterwards.
This is a private company, taking civilians into space, in a reusable rocket vehicle, as a potentially viable long-term commercial endeavour. It's a completely different milestone.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:16, Reply)
"Tin can" lol
When you have to disparage the previous milestones to prove this milestone is actually a milestone then you might be struggling a bit
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:33, Reply)
Why do you interpret that as disparaging?
It's a descriptive term... it was a disposable metal container. It is in no way disparaging of the milestone, but is comparing the primitiveness of the early vehicle with the sophistication of a modern one.
Have you ever actually engaged in a discussion in good faith? Yet again you've picked on a totally irrelevant aspect of your oppositions argument, instead of actually addressing the content therein.
Stop with the straw man and learn to steel man.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:36, Reply)
It wasn't made of tin
tin has too low of a melting point.
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My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:38,
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Apart from the equipment tests and launches that included animals
Also, though by now probably far less likely, some may not have survived attempts
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:30, Reply)
“milestone in human development”?
Pfft. Nice trolling.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:01,
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You don't think that progressing
space technology to the point where space tourism by a private company is now an actual thing is a milestone?
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:11, Reply)
No.
This doesn’t progress humanity one jot.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:42,
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What’s the human development part of this?
Reusable rockets? SpaceX got there years ago with Falcon 9. An orbital class launcher.
Reusable capsules? SpaceX got there last year with Crew Dragon. An orbital class capsule.
Space tourism for the super rich? Dennis Tito would like a word.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:28,
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One guy hitching a ride on government rockets
might be technically space tourism, but it isn't exactly a budding space tourism industry.
Falcon 9 is not completely reusable.
Everything we make is human development, you do realise? Your house... the leisure centre down the road. How is this ever not human development?
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:41, Reply)
Yes, but how many of the things we build actually count as milestones?
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 13:07,
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Are we including or excluding actual milestones?
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 15:10,
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1st commercially reusable tourism rocket
is not an unreasonable milestone.
I mean, it definitely took much more effort to do that, than paving 1 mile of road.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:31, Reply)
Like I said...
that other one is not entirely reusable. Some parts of it need to be rebuilt between flights.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:48, Reply)
Virgin Galactic?
Not sure which bit of that system needs rebuilding between flights, but I doubt that Blue Origin would just restack and refuel without performing extensive maintenance checks.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:55,
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Virgin Galactic
uses sub orbital space planes, with rocket engines, but they're not rockets, and it's debatable if they actually even go into space.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:56, Reply)
OK, so the Space Shuttle wasn't a rocket. Got it.
I don't understand why you're so wedded to the need to describe this pointless irrelevance as a milestone, while simultaneously so determined to ignore the other pointless irrelevance that successfully beat it to an arbitrary definition of space. It's like trying to argue that Charlton Athletic are the best football club in London because Leyton Orient only play in the second division.
Have you got tickets or something?
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 19:24,
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The space shuttle wasn't a rocket.
It was also a space plane, which used a pair of independent rocket boosters to get it close enough to space for it to fly independently.
I didn't say the other things weren't milestones or even suggest that. I pointed out how they were different, and so were not THIS milestone.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 20:03, Reply)
hey, we get it
you've got a boner for bezos
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 22 Jul 2021, 5:05,
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I'm surprised at you.
You don't usually surrender with this few moves. Even benny lasted longer than you.
(, Thu 22 Jul 2021, 16:46, Reply)
it's ok to have a man crush
you don't need to justify it
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 23 Jul 2021, 6:43,
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And they need to replace the engine each flight, I think.
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brb man-child cuck corporate supplicant fuck, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 19:26,
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I know they use a solid propellant,
so I guess they'd have to have some kind of replacement cartridge at the very least. As stated above though, I'd expect them to have to go through an exhaustive series of maintenance checks between each flight anyway, so I don't see that as much of a handicap.
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wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 19:39,
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You clearly haven't seen my house.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 15:13,
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Let's just see if the Vulcans spotted him
and land to make first contact with him tomorrow.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:29, Reply)
Is a rollercoaster a milestone in human development?
It's basically an amusement ride for rich folk. I know you can argue it's a stepping stone to bigger things, but that's stretching it. They went straight up and then came back down in ten minutes. This was already done 70 years ago.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:03, Reply)
When the corporations are as wealthy and powerful as many countries
it's hardly a solid argument
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:03, Reply)
What's that even got to do with it?
You seem to be suggesting that because an company has the resources to achieve something previous beyond all companies, it's suddenly not an achievement?
The simple fact that some companies are as powerful as some governments is itself a milestone in human development, regardless of whether anyone thinks it's a good thing or not. Such milestones don't have to be things that are good, or right, or just.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:44, Reply)
they're not subjective, though that's just how I feel
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 22 Jul 2021, 5:17,
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He's thanking his min wage / min rights workforce for financing his mid life crisis
Then the room laughs at the little people. The fact that you can't see anything wrong with that really says more about you than anything else.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 10:54, Reply)
Just noticed the woman astronaut looks appalled by it all
So at least there's one grown-up in the room
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 10:58, Reply)
Not sure she looks even remotely appalled by anything to be honest.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:22, Reply)
She's spent 10 minutes in an enclosed space with him
I reckon she hates him more than I do at this point
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:37, Reply)
Well, he's thanking his workforce certainly.
And then the room laughs.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 11:23, Reply)
Blue Origin is not Amazon. Blue Origin is funded from Bezos' own wealth, created by Amazon employees working their arses off in sweatshop conditions.
It would be like Mike Ashley thanking all his Sports Direct employees for buying him a new boat.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:39,
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Well, you've set up the rules that whatever he does he's a cunt.
If he didn't thank people you'd call him a cunt for not being grateful.
So your opinion about him thanking people isn't exactly valuable, as you're starting from a position of "how can I interpret this guy's actions so that he's a cunt?"
Like I said, this is all just bitch eating crackers.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 12:51, Reply)
I've never heard him talk before this, so I've got nothing else to go on. However this interview makes him look like a tone-deaf cunt.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 14:17,
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You think this is a hill to die on?
Whereas I see this as yet another opportunity to highlight the pair of giant sequoia trunks you meticulously balance on each shoulder.
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:27, Reply)
Sorry was that too cryptic?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_on_shoulder
(, Wed 21 Jul 2021, 16:49, Reply)
I like him, at least he provides a decent counterargument, even if he is trolling sometimes
and b3ta being what it is these days, it's not like we're distracting from something better
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Thu 22 Jul 2021, 5:26,
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And you're nothing to me,
so what of it?
Is your contribution supposed to interest people?
(, Thu 22 Jul 2021, 16:49, Reply)