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This is a link post Kamikwasi tax principles

(hoppitygoestotown The temporal displacement occurred exactly, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 17:42, , Reply)
This is a normal post Nicely done.

(I helped save b3ta! jonbob loves you, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 19:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post Indeed
Would have been nice to see the Welfare bill included in all that blank space though, and a lot of the other things they seem to think are worth cutting right now.

Then again, all of that could fit nicely, a few times over, into the money that's going to be given to the energy companies so that someone along the chain can make an obscene profit.
 (I helped save b3ta! My Name was saying these words inside your head on, Sat 1 Oct 2022, 14:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post Excellent way of visualising it.
Edit: Haven't seen the GE petition here, so
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/619781
 (I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Thu 29 Sep 2022, 19:57, , Reply)
This is a normal post I want to sign this one, but it was rejected :(
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/614626
 (I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 20:37, , Reply)
This is a normal post First person dramas.
Be interested in who the users pick to be.
Sex scenes might get enormous audiences tricky to portray. I mean do you get to use yours or someone elses?

I should get a petition started to replace Truss with a AI sex robot, still disastrous but more entertaining.
 (I helped save b3ta! FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Thu 29 Sep 2022, 21:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post People who choose to watch Cast Away from the POV of Wilson are going to be traumatised

(I helped save b3ta! Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 22:04, , Reply)
This is a normal post Starmer must be over the moon that
this panic has diverted almost all scrutiny away from his Great British Monorail Energy fantasy where he somehow manages to double onshore wind capacity, treble solar generation, and quadruple(!) offshore wind capacity as well as insulating 19 million homes and building a shitload of ecologically friendly foundries, factories and seaports in order to have the infrastructure and facilities required to realise all of the above ‐ all in the space of five years. Which somebody worked out would require something like building and erecting a wind turbine every single day for each of those five years.
A particularly impressive feat considering that unemployment currently sits at 3.6% and isn't likely to grow by much considering the current economic situation. I suppose we'll just have to ship in the workforce from somewhere else.

To be fair (besides getting hold of the raw materials), the solar bit will be easy enough. In order to be eligible for Great British Energy, the Government can just mandate that every domestic rooftop in the country is retrofitted with a PV array which feeds directly into Starmer's network. Socialist energy production for the greater good!

I mean, Starmer's plans are nice in principle and all, but at least the Tories plans might work out. Starmer's are just bonkers.

The biggest problem is that Truss is a sexy idiot. But she's essentially a meat puppet (as most PM's are). So let's hope her cabinet are slightly better suited to the job.
 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 20:24, , Reply)
This is a normal post WTFAYBOA?

(I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 20:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post Truss plan risky bad. Maybe no worky.
Starmer plan silly bad. Big no worky.
 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 20:51, , Reply)
This is a normal post Maybe?
Seriously?
 (I helped save b3ta! wheresthefish Partly filled with wrong, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 21:01, , Reply)
This is a normal post Maybe as in:
Still significantly more likely than Starmer's suggestion. Its a choice between probably getting fucked, or definitely getting fucked. Bad fucked. Scum bad.
 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 21:03, , Reply)
This is a normal post
How do you block people on b3ta?

Asking for a friend
 (hoppitygoestotown The temporal displacement occurred exactly, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 22:47, , Reply)
This is a normal post Every new build house should be a windmill.

(I helped save b3ta! Turtle Power & Knuckles, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 20:55, , Reply)
This is a normal post And we can all be provided with pedal dynamos under our desks to help contribute whilst at work.
In exchange for government subsidised food/energy vouchers. Will help to combat obesity, too. Starmer might actually be a genius.
 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 21:02, , Reply)
This is a normal post Sterling is now worthless, let's start trading in Merits

(I helped save b3ta! Turtle Power & Knuckles, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 21:08, , Reply)
This is a normal post You are bonkers.

(I helped save b3ta! brb homonecrobatrachophile, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 21:12, , Reply)
This is a normal post *scrolls down /links*

Thinks: Oh look, a wall of text replying to a post. Perchance is it Swagatha Christie treating everyone to his latest fascinating stream-of-consciousness Important Opinions?

*keeps scrolling*

*keeps scrolling*

Thinks: Well, blow me! What are the chances? It is. Thank goodness I scrolled past it, fuck wasting minutes of my life on that utterly self-absorbed yet utterly lacking in self-awareness shiteswamp.
 (The Porcupine From Purgatory Writtern By the Winners, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 22:06, , Reply)
This is a normal post Minutes?
Yikes. So, you didn't read it? Still took time to compose a reply, regardless. Hmm.
 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 22:11, , Reply)
This is a normal post Yes.

(The Porcupine From Purgatory Writtern By the Winners, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 22:22, , Reply)
This is a normal post I've read it now.
You're a fucking idiot.
 (The Porcupine From Purgatory Writtern By the Winners, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 22:36, , Reply)
This is a normal post You think Starmer's plan holds water then?
Interesting. Are there any specific points of my reply you disagree with, or are you simply sorting to ad hominem out of frustration/anger?
 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 22:43, , Reply)
This is a normal post I think you're a fucking idiot.
Which part of that are you struggling with?
 (The Porcupine From Purgatory Writtern By the Winners, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 22:49, , Reply)
This is a normal post
I'm blocking you as you consistently degrade my enjoyment of this amazing site.

Before I do I summon Anthonyb3ta70100 to work his magic on you.

(Magic may require user pressing ignore)
 (hoppitygoestotown The temporal displacement occurred exactly, Fri 30 Sep 2022, 3:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post Bye, then.

(Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Fri 30 Sep 2022, 9:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post Don't feed the challenged
Ignore them and they will live their miserable existence shouting into the wind
 (I helped save b3ta! spazzcaptain Misses Valin @, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 23:52, , Reply)
This is a normal post Who is "somebody" ?

(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Thu 29 Sep 2022, 23:09, , Reply)
This is a normal post His numbers are off by quite a bit, actually.
CAT suggests we'd need an additional 13,000 offshore turbines and 3,500 onshore turbines. Granted, that's the number required to reach zero carbon. But I'd imagine the numbers required to make the UK largely self-sufficient in regards to domestic energy production won't be far off that number. At a rate of one turbine per day, we'd be looking at 1,825 turbines built over a 5 year period.
 (Huw Edwards #notalljews, Fri 30 Sep 2022, 10:07, , Reply)
This is a normal post its almost like starmers treating global warming like it's a real problem requiring a response

(I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 30 Sep 2022, 3:00, , Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not suggesting otherwise.
I'm simply suggesting that Starmer's response is completely impractical. The vast cost of such a project would absolutely eclipse the current government's tax cuts (money we'd still need to borrow), and the likelihood of completing such a project at all - never mind over the space of 5 years - when we neither have the workforce, nor the existing infrastructure to support such a project is practically nil. The road to hell is paved with good intentions
It's somewhat telling how angry people get when you criticise Starmer's plan. I suppose they just don't like to be reminded that we're almost certainly fucked either way.
We should have known that was the case since Brexit, though. I guess people just like burying their heads in the sand.
 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Fri 30 Sep 2022, 7:48, , Reply)
This is a normal post It may need some finessing

(I helped save b3ta! garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Fri 30 Sep 2022, 10:26, , Reply)
This is a normal post no it's not that
People simply object to being told what you think about things. Things that you clearly know nothing about. Over and over again, sometimes replying to yourself with different accounts to make it look like you've written something valuable. And who can blame them?
 (benito vaselini no not that one, Fri 30 Sep 2022, 10:35, , Reply)
This is a normal post Uh?

(I helped save b3ta! garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Fri 30 Sep 2022, 9:27, , Reply)
This is a normal post I was curious, so I did some checking.
In 2021, we added 2,645 megawatts of wind turbine capacity. (Statistica)

Best case scenario, an average on-short wind turbine can generate 2.5-3MW of power. ( (WindEurope)

I can't find accurate data for how many turbines we installed, but we can estimate in the last year we installed around 1000 wind turbines in 2021, or 2.73 a day. That was without a massive push by a government to do so. Also, in 2020, 24% of our energy came from wind turbines, and that number has obviously increased since then (ONS).

Also, the Conservatives already committed to building loads more turbines by 2030, and the right-wingers I have spoken to seem to believe that our main infrastructure should never have been privatised, so Starmer's plans aren't totally bonkers.

I do appreciate, though, that we don't have a workforce skilled in these disciplines, and our skill shortages do line up with the kinds of skills required for big engineering (Gov.uk shortage occupations tracker) - but I do also contest why are we wanting to re-invest heavily in short term energy engineering projects like fracking or re-opening coal mines (which too would be government funded), when we can expand our renewables? Surely that would be a better investment?

Maybe the people I speak to are in the minority, but I live in a decidedly blue county, and the few right-leaners who dislike Labour with a passion agree that one of the biggest mistakes we made as a country was to privatise our infrastructure. And nationalising things does tend to stabilise how much things cost, even if they don't work as efficiently.
 (I helped save b3ta! The MooseBlaster, Fri 30 Sep 2022, 10:33, , Reply)
This is a normal post Don't get me wrong. I'm absolutely against fracking and the re-opening of coal mines.
I'm also completely in support of publicly owned infrastructure. I also think that absolutely in our best interests to focus on green, renewable energy.
Starmer's ideology is sound. But he's either completely ignorant of the size of the undertaking he's proposing or (more likely) well aware that it's completely unachievable but knows it will be a big vote winner with the Social Media users come GE time.

If he wins the GE (which looks extremely likely at present), then I genuinely wish him all the best. But I don't expect him to follow through on his promises. It'll be interesting to see how Hoppity, Garold and co employ their mental gymnastics to excuse that one. Probably still going to blame the Tories, somehow.
 (Tony Hayers DEFUND THE POLICE, Fri 30 Sep 2022, 10:45, , Reply)
This is a normal post Look, I'm not a cheerleader for this
not paying too much attention to be honest. It's a long way to a GE and I'm gonna assume that they'll have to do some pretty solid costings because Labour won't get the free ride from the DM & Tel that the tories do. There will be fuckloads of scrutiny so I'm just gonna sit back and see how it plays out.
 (I helped save b3ta! garold you're on mute I SAID YOU'RE ON MUTE, Fri 30 Sep 2022, 13:29, , Reply)
This is a normal post somebody said otherwise
there's no disputing such impeccable sources
 (I helped save b3ta! cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 30 Sep 2022, 13:10, , Reply)