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This is a link post A vid to show that not all the Jewish settlers in the occupied territories are malignant pricks
A couple of minutes with this calm, sweet woman will, eh. oh. mm. nope - another cunt.

*awaits the inevitable comments from the Israeli apologists masquerading as "balance"

Sorry for the grim nature of the post but just watched it and it needed to be said.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 11:53, Reply)
This is a normal post but... but...
how can the rapture happen if the jews don't return to the homeland?
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 11:56, Reply)
This is a normal post This video (predictably) only shows one side.
Exactly the same thing is done by Arabs against Jews.

Do us all a favour and keep your nose out of it. B3TA doesn't seem to me to be the place for propaganda.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:08, Reply)
This is a normal post
can't we just agree that they're all cunts?
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:10, Reply)
This is a normal post Here we go...
Sorry Sir but that is bullshit.
In no circumstance whatsoever do Arabs herd Jews into cages on their own land backed up by their own illegal, occupying military forces.

As a UK citizen, I am obliged NOT to keep my nose out, as I bear at least partial responsibility as my own goverment has been in support of Israels actions for 40 years.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:14, Reply)
This is a normal post But,
did you like my Elmo video below?
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:16, Reply)
This is a normal post 40 years?? it's a bit longer than that.
the balfour declaration was issued in 1917.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:25, Reply)
This is a normal post They're all fighting over a bit of dirt and a few stones
All in support of their imaginary omnipotent sky-fairies.

I'm afraid I really don't give a shit.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:27, Reply)
This is a normal post That's not entirely true.
Although there is a clear division on religious grounds, a lot of the Palestinians see it as a political conflict. Fatah is largely secular (compared to Hamas which is Islamist).
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:39, Reply)
This is a normal post ^this
it's largely an issue of nationalism underpinned by various racial groupings rather than anything to do with 'religion', although the issue is extremely muddied by the complexities of cultural/religious/ethnic ties to specific religious groupings (see my thesis)

I hate these kind of debates because for the vast majority of times the issues are brought up, those arguing have some facts or knowledge but it's all extremely limited, there's no way to verify anything and people get very angry, so what happens is the verbal equivalent of two goats rearing up and then banging their heads together.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:56, Reply)
This is a normal post I still wish they'd all fuckoff
Far worse things happen, there's plenty of African wars to attest to that.

Fuckoff Israel, fuckoff Palestine, fuckoff the lot of you. Sort your shit out yourselves.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 13:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Except the Israelis have the IDF to offer them protection and to collude in the violence against Arabs.
so not 'exactly' the same thing, no.

Quite long (35min) but worth watching if you have the time: 'The Sun Doesn't Shine In The Camp', a film of every day life in Balata Refugee Camp on the West Bank.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:36, Reply)
This is a normal post Gaza is now a ghetto - there is no other word for it.
Considering the suffering the Jews endured in Europe over the last 1000+ years, it is ironic that they should now force another people to live like that.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:42, Reply)
This is a normal post head of nail
meet hammer.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:56, Reply)
This is a normal post ditto
...
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 13:38, Reply)
This is a normal post ^this

(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 16:26, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes, as demonstrated rather well here:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUDzJ1HDXJk
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 13:36, Reply)
This is a normal post Maybe the rest of the world should've kept their noses out of the holocaust too?
prick
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 13:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Comparing Palestine/Israel to the holocaust?
at what point in your life did your mum tell you the gumby man was your Dad?

My only point was that picking sides is hardly the way to solve the issue.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 20:26, Reply)
This is a normal post pffff you ignorant twat
Picking sides was the ONLY way the holocaust was dealt with... it wasn't solved by debate or discussion.

My point was, Israel seems quite adept at insisting that others should keep their noses out and shouldn't take sides (but only when that side isn't theirs) - while conveniently ignoring the fact that if that was what happened in the mid 20th century you'd all be fuckin dead and "Israel" wouldn't even exist.

Learn some humility you worthless cunt.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 1:59, Reply)
This is a normal post "Exactly the same thing is done by Arabs against Jews."
That makes it all right, does it?

Do us all a favour and piss off. You don't get to decide what is and isn't discussed on b3ta.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 16:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Nor did I claim to
I just tried to comment on the futility of posting a one-sided account of the situation. Both sides do equally barbaric things to the other.
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 20:28, Reply)
This is a normal post Bollox

Dig up one contemporary video where you see Arabs treating Jews this way.

For almost all my life I've supported the State Of Israel. Mainly due to the collective guilt I felt over what the West allowed to happen in Germany. But my sympathy, and my support, have worn thin.

The condition of the Palestinian people is an abomination. The cruel and inhuman treatment of them has to end.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 0:29, Reply)
This is a normal post a cat would never do this
- i watched that then accidentally scrolled too far and read the reply as 'I enjoyed that. I actually like Gervais' haha
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:10, Reply)
This is a normal post I like your username
Shpongleriffic
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:20, Reply)
This is a normal post "Stay in your cage"

(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:26, Reply)
This is a normal post WHORE!

(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 12:27, Reply)
This is a normal post you dont eat pig, we dont eat pig
so how about you all fuck off with your silly ideas and hatred of each other, and let the sensibles get on with it
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 13:02, Reply)
This is a normal post dont trust anyone who doesnt like bacon sandwiches

(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 13:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Hmm....
Maybe if we carpet bomb the entire country with bacon, then neither side will want to live there?

We'd have to make sure the bacon wasn't too crispy though, it could have someone's eye out if dropped from a plane.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:30, Reply)
This is a normal post Just another day on the local estate around here.

(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 13:24, Reply)
This is a normal post Was thinkin that meself...
got bars n cages all over my street...
(, Sun 11 Jul 2010, 13:55, Reply)
This is a normal post I can't tell who is who in this video.
All I see are middle-eastern types shouting at each other.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 0:26, Reply)