*coughs*
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
( Cawl, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 15:08, 22 replies)

Definitely agreed
Didn't come anywhere near the old movies. I nearly walked out when the bloody UFO turned up.
(Errorist, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 15:13, closed)

Really?
Even the bit with the fridge?
(Milo Minderbinder, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 15:13, closed)

seconded!
I was still waiting for the good bit when the credits started :(
(Moniker, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 15:13, closed)

Yes!
I, too, was disappointed loads by this film.
(YayLady is cold, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 15:14, closed)

It wasn't bad.
That's the problem. It was ok. But only ok.

It's like when your parents say "we're not angry, we're just disappointed". That's worse.

This film disappointed me. I didn't hate it.
( Cawl, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 15:16, closed)

couldn't agree more
It was a bit like the new 3 star wars films, good because they are star wars, but really, they are actually a bit shit.

Cate Blanchett was terrible.
How do we know these guys are Russian? ah, they drink vodka and dance in a russian fashion!
Aliens? that's never been done before!
what a surprise it's Indy's son...
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 15:27, closed)

@Kaol
It's down to Lucas' arrogance.
Frank Darabont apparantly wrote a script that both Spielberg and Ford were ecstatic with and the mini-Dave Lee Travis said, "Well fuck you, I'm writing it."
( Boss Keloid Got your mother's maiden name tattooed on my arm, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 15:29, closed)

Gah. The fucking refrigerator scene.
I don't care if he's Indiana Fucking Jones, being blown through the air inside a metal box, even were he completely encased in shock absorbing foam, would have sloshed his brain around inside his cranium to the point of doing an internal decapitation and making it into mush. That scene pissed me off to no end. Why not just start dropping anvils on peoples' heads while you're at it, then have them stagger around with a pointy bump where they got hit?

That scene alone really pissed me off.
( The Resident Loon Not a demographic. Do not measure., Thu 26 Jun 2008, 15:29, closed)

^this
I still cannot believe how much shit that movie was. I'm choosing to ignore it for the rest of my life and convince myself Spielburg/lucas only ever made 3 Indy films
( theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 15:31, closed)

I'd forgotten the bit with the fridge
that was stupid

basically, Lucas should never be allowed near films again, except in the role of producer. not writing, no directing, no ideas.

and he should get rid of his stupid forelock
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 15:35, closed)

Why are you surprised?
Lucas? In his 60s.
Speilberg? In his 60s.
Ford? In his 60s.

Are you really saying that a film made by a bunch of pensioners is going to be as good as a film made by 30 year old guys in their creative peak?

Those who are expecting this film to be as good as "Raiders" are sadly deluded.
(MrC. Having the most boring username on b3ta since 2004, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 16:08, closed)

Fridges and aliens
WTF?

Like others have said - it was ok. But it should have been oh so much better.
( VandenPlas can't think of anything clever - no change there!, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 16:11, closed)

My kids liked the bit with the fridge
But I wasn't all that thrilled with the movie either.
( flirting with badgers What? It sounded good at the time., Thu 26 Jun 2008, 16:15, closed)

3 bad parts:
1) the fucking fridge
2) The bit where that kid swings through the trees with the monkeys
3) The massive, CGI-infested, dialogue-and-acting-free mess that the film became after the stupid jungle chase scene.

It's a shame, really, because the early parts were largely ace, especially the fight in the malt shop.
( Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 16:36, closed)

Oh
The most disappointing thing about this film _ I thought - was the fact that it won't land at my theatre (yes, we show films as well!) until July 20th. But now it seems there's a whole lot more disappointment to come.

I haven't seen it yet.

I might just have to write scenes seven to infinity instead.
(happylittletulip helpless and delicious, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 16:38, closed)

I really wasn't that disappointed with it
and without wanting to engage the wrath of other b3tans, it is a kids film, so you WILL have to suspend your disbelief in order to enjoy it.

I adore the first three and think they could not be bettered and sure enough they didn't. But as a film in itself it's really not as bad as some people say.

The only bit that really fucked me off was where the kid was swinging through the trees to get back to Indy as he reminded me of a demented ewok.

I do think it'll be bad if they go ahead with the proposed fifth film as this ties things up nicely at the end.
( fuck shit up the best you never had, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 19:12, closed)

Just one question...
...did anyone really expect it to be any good?!
( El Lazarus is calm now, Ish,, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 19:26, closed)

Disappointment or low expectations - spoiler maybe
After 'Die another day', I am happy with serial films that are good before the 'Iceland switch' and it just turns to CGI PAP. I really loved the sense of dread as he was wandering through crypts, the asylum and catacombs, all the time waiting for a snake to drop on him, the floor to collapse, the nuns to turn evil and lock him in.

And they just didn't give in at all - a beautiful building sense of dread, so by the time that the twunting aliens turned up, I was an emotional wreck and just pleased that they'd stopped toying with my nerves, that such UTTER PAP gave me a bit of a breathing space.

The easter egg with the True Ark was quite (IMHO) cheeky, and although the fridge scene was silly, when he runs into the house, there's a real sense of relief. And then slowly, it all dawned on me, from somewhere deep in my memory, those posters at the swimming pool that showed what would happen if a X Megaton device detonated on the Tyne Bridge. They must have done the research somewhere. Oops...

So again, the PAP CGI was just a chance for me to regroup my emotions, have a handful of popcorn and a slug of pepsi max, and gird my loins.

Now, I accept, I'd stayed up till 3 the night before watching the election coverage, and was enjoying my first day off work for ages, but I still felt like those boys treated me like an emotional marionette.

And now I've had the chance to say it :-)
(cheesehead, Thu 26 Jun 2008, 21:21, closed)

Pah
i loved Indy as a kid. LOVED HIM. They used old stock cameras and film to film the originals so it looked like the old westerns that inspired it. grainy film, real stunt men.

First 30 mins is a great start, the realisiation as he walks into the house in the desert with the count down going, the shot of the bomb waiting to be dropped - the fridge bit was corny but the explosion was immense.

From there, it went down hill - did marion EVER stop smiling like some retard? she just grinned like a baffon all the way thru.

And when the obvious ending came (it's the skull of alien? never, you don't say.) it decended into a firey pit shite - i mean, ok aliens creating civilisations is s good concept - BUT WHAT THE FUCK?!?!? why were they in there waiting years for the spanish bloke to steal the head?? why leave then? how did he even fucking get in?? IT FUCKING RUININED IT. TOTALLY.

If they do anymore with that kid as the 'new indy' i'll hunt lucas down, however i did like how Indy picked his hat up at the end...
(TheManofScience, Fri 27 Jun 2008, 9:30, closed)

This is all true.
But I like to break it down with the title:
Indiana Jones - I thought this was great as although Mr. Ford is 65, he could still play Dr. Jones with no issues (for me)
and the - These are just joining words. And they worked.
Kingdom - Meh...
of The - More joining words. Starting to make the title a little long.
Crystal Skull - WHAT FUCKING TWAT THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA!?!?!

George Lucas always said he was waiting for the right 'MacGuffin' to use (like the Ark, the stones or the cup). I think he failed.
( gareth_alien will be human again at, Fri 27 Jun 2008, 12:40, closed)

WTF
Waht an odd film. The first part, Harrison Ford looked ancient. Apart from the Fridge bit, do you not think the US Army may cancel a nuclear test if some of its soldiers are killed? Kate Blanchett was shit (possibly more annoying than the when in LoTR; which is saying something). The motorbike chase was badly done CGI (way too blurry). Just very disapointing.
(kitescreech still here, Sat 28 Jun 2008, 9:56, closed)

"The metal in this gunpowder will help us track it"
The what in this what ?

one minute in and I'm already (mentally) hurling insults at the screen and wishing George Lucas all manner of (extra) degenerative brain diseases.
( DukeEuphoria Comes highly reccomended, Mon 30 Jun 2008, 12:15, closed)