iPod touch, iPhones & iTunes.
Call me a dinosaur. This isn't meant as an Applebash but may well turn into one.
Our household is a mishmash of operating systems - my daughters netbook is windows8, the missus laptop is xp and that's the way she likes it. The house tablet is Android - I've managed to root every android device I've owned - with absolutely no fucking dramas whatsoever! Me, I can count on one hand the number of times I've logged into the windows (7 I think, or vista) drive on this desktop.
For the geeks- debian, but since I spend most of my time in tty1, I always have xfce just to keep it gui.

xp - "Windows cannot find a driver for this device - do you want to look online?" Even when you do get the drivers sorted then you install itunes. & the fun begins..
"Ipod touch device needs resetting - warning all data will be lost" Oh goody, no chance to back up and I get to lose all those games I downloaded. Yay! I even tried jailbreaking it (redsn0w and blackra1n) - nada.

linux - found it in lsusb, mounted it in /mnt/ thru /dev/, installed gtkpod, found it was too old (debian repos. for you!), got it from git and built that. Once, only once having had to gksudo a file manager did I find it and was able access files on it. EDIT: Yes I did try install itunes thu wine. Suffice to say, I did not have the last laugh.
If any of that didn't make sense to you and you own an iPhone and want try linux - think twice.

windows8 - "Windows did not recognise this device." Back to the Apple Knowledgebase. Install drivers, install itunes, rinse & repeat.

I have a 2nd gen. 32gb ipod touch going cheap. My missus is getting rid of the iphone and going android. My sister in law paid just shy of AUD$1000 more than what my work laptop cost for a macbook. With lower specs. than my laptop.
Me, aside from the whole "treating pancreatic cancer with hoodoo", I think Steve Jobs was one of the smartest men on the planet.
Sell people something you've told them looks good, make small changes as iterations but sell them as huge innovations and above all else make sure you keep your hardware/software closed so that the only place to get it from is you. Fucking brilliant.

Anyone with suggestions - I appreciate it but there's probably a good chance I've tried it. If you want a really cheap old ipod touch gaz me.
(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 9:41, 39 replies)

Try again with Redsn0w...

I don't know when you last tried it but it's really improved in recent times in my experience. It's a lot easier to use and rarely fails (lorks, if I can use it, it's got to be simple)

But I get what you mean. After being an apple fanboy, I've moved to Android recently and haven't looked back.

Windows 8 is a pile of dog turds though.
( Pooflake braces for an onslaught..., Tue 20 Aug 2013, 9:58, closed)

Eh, I've now gone full Mac at work
At home it's a similar mishmash of devices...I needed to transfer some files from the Macbook to my PC the other week and it took me an hour of fucking about until I realised I just needed to adjust the permissions on my public folder, then it took about five seconds to do it over the wifi :/

Just delete iTunes. Take off and nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.
( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 9:59, closed)

Not allowed to do anything to the laptop (Windows 7) or the iPad - they're both company-owned
G/F has Windows 8 on her 'phone - as a touchscreen/phone system it's ok I suppose.
(Captain Placid 24/7 ball gags, brownie mix and clown porn, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 10:08, closed)

How the fuck does this relate to the question?
( cs1ca, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 10:30, closed)

I've gone off these things -
iPod touch, iPhones & iTunes

Ever so sorry if that wasn't clear enough to you. Hope that's clarified the reason for my post.
(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 10:38, closed)

I get what it's supposed to be about.
( cs1ca, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 11:50, closed)

Well done you then.
If it means that much to you then please feel free to let me know how my post fails to address the question.
(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 11:56, closed)

Apple stuff is ok...
Well, unless it has the 'i' before the name (I'm sure it stands for idiot).

I just got rid of an old Mac IIcx (4mb RAM, 40MB HD) which still runs PageMaker 3, Claris FileMaker (yeah - THAT old), and an old version of Excel and Word.

For me, I use Windows 7 at work and on my laptop, have a Nexus7, HTC One X, HTC One SV (work phone) - none of which have ever had a sniff of iTunes near them. Apart from the work phone, all my Android devices are rooted.

I'm sure there are third party iTunes alternatives - I think I recall a friend using Media Monkey?
( snee held his breath since, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 11:06, closed)

Most of the linux varieties -
say banshee and rhythmbox amongst others are bloated as fuck. I try to run a lean system with more commandline and (needed) daemons than gui based progs with lots of dependencies.
(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 11:38, closed)

Just imagine I've put some fanboy bleating here, it'll save me typing it.
Cheers
( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 11:49, closed)

So your story is?
C'mon Dr. Imble - I expect at least a bit more from you.
Cheers.
(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 11:53, closed)

I expect that you're holding it wrong.

( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 12:04, closed)

I did turn it off and then on again.

(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 12:54, closed)

Oh is this the obligatory Star Wars post?

( Fork Has lost his bash virginity!, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 13:45, closed)

I've had various Apple products
some of it is really good, but I just got fed up with the price gouging and tactics Apple use.

I bought a card reader for my Ipad, and installed a piece of pirate software that let the Ipad read memory cards on the reader - so, for certain uses, you are effectively expanding the memory.

Apple then quietly nobbled the port in the next software update, to stop it being able to read from the cards.

Why? To make sure people pay £300 for their memory, and not £30 for someone elses.

Same for output to TV cables. They made sure you can only use one of their cables, costing £30, instead of something you can get off Ebay for £3.

Fuck 'em. Work needed me to upgrade my old Blackberry to something smarter last month, expecting I'd go for an Iphone, but I got a Samsung. Fuck Apple, I'll never buy anything from them again.
(username failed moderation, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 15:19, closed)

Even my most Apple-addicted friends are swapping their iPhones for Samsungs these days

( emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 16:23, closed)

I have just done this also
Got rid of my iPhone 5 for a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini.

Being my 1st Android device I struggled at 1st but now I'm glad i did it.

I hope NFC takes off, I've already started learning some basic Tasker...
(Frample Tromwibbler climbs an obstacle like old people fuck, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 17:37, closed)

Sony Walkman, VLC media player and CD juicer.
Buy second hand CDs from Amazon, which tend to be cheaper than downloads anyway, rip them with CD juicer and use a Sony as your mp3 player. Use VLC as your media player. I never have any problems whatsoever doing this, right up to the point where my wife wants me to put some files onto her Macbook.
( The Awful Puppy Bakery is still bored, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 15:56, closed)

literally the shittest person on the internet

(alright alright, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 18:16, closed)

alright
alright.
(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 6:40, closed)

I was given/won an iPad a few years ago.
The only way I could activate it (this was a first gen that needed a PC to activate) was to install XP in a VM and do it that way. I couldn't evne charge the thing until I found ipad_charge.
Sadly I hear Android is going to the shitfestst that is MTP and dropping USB mass-storage so by the time I come to buy a new phone the cunt's will have fucked that up too.
Seems nobody makes a decent smart phone nowadays -- they all wand you to jump through hoops to just use the fucking thing.
(Me, I'm not... in any way intoxicated, Tue 20 Aug 2013, 20:19, closed)

I had to laugh when I hooked up my Nexus 7 to my Mint install,
naively expecting that two Linux devices would have no trouble communicating with one another.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 8:34, closed)

Your phone.
You need to do the Australian equivalent of fucking it.
(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 8:41, closed)

Probably easier just to teach Mint to use MTP,
as that eliminates the possibility of me bricking my tablet. My phone's only on ICS, so should still present as mass storage, although I've not tried it with Mint.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 9:07, closed)

true.dat
It's pretty fucking hard to brick an android device by rooting it. Unless you are a complete idiot.
In which case you should probably stick to Nokia.





Like me.
(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 9:50, closed)

I've looked at rooting both devices,
but concluded that I wouldn't really see any benefit, so gave it a miss. HTC made ICS available for my DesireS, anyway, so my primary motivation was taken away.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 10:17, closed)

You are terrible
at not being smug despite your obvious failings
at not being a total dick
at using computers
at comprehension
at writing
at life

you ask for suggestions - have you considered DTOHTAKY ?
(James?, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 1:28, closed)

"Delete something, something and kill yourself"?
Even b3ta dictionary didn't have anything.
Anyhoo, since I can't remember ever having interacted with you in the past & I clearly have made an impression on you - I'd like to take this opportunity to say,
"Pleased to meet you, welcome to my ignore list. It's been a pleasure."

EDIT:I'll take you off ignore long enough to answer one of your "accusations".
I'm terrible at using computers -
Having taught myself in my teens to program in asm and then C, I've found that many of the clients that my small IT business has garnered appreciate the fact that not only can I build the hardware for servers that I can then install free, open source software on (often using existing components) but I can also code for them when some of their software may not meet all of their requirements.
Seeing as I've never been big on the "wysiwyg" stuff, most of what I do is either in a text based 'non-gui' environment or run in a terminal emulator (bash). Thus I've never been a big user of Apple Macs as their interactive basis is mostly completely gui based. Much like windows. Hence, I may not be au fait on some of the tips and tricks that apple users may become used to but then again as I said earlier in my post - most of what I work with is 'beige box' hardware (so fairly interchangeable between PC's) and open source operating systems and software.
Sorry to give you my life story but... just because I don't use apple products day to day I think doesn't mean I don't know how to use computers.
Aside from that - yes I may well be a smug cunt, I'm not the greatest writer on the planet, I may well be a dick but I'm actually quite happy with my life at the moment thank you.
I won't rush to put you back on "ignore" just to see if you have a response. Unless of course you wish to take the initiative in which case I guess this will be goodbye. Again.
Cheers.
EDIT: Since I'm so lacking in comprehension maybe you could explain "DTOHTAKY". I think I've got the beginning and the end.
(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 2:36, closed)

literally too shit

(alright alright, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 8:46, closed)

alright
alright
(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 8:56, closed)

Nice hat.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 9:32, closed)

Can you tell me what
"DTOHTAKY" means?
(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 9:50, closed)

I would if I could,
but I can't.
( monster munch person, man, woman... camera... TV?, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 10:12, closed)

Doing The Only Honourable Thing And Killing Yourself.
No need to thank me.
( Wet-chinned bag shanker Cannot parse Wogan, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 10:43, closed)

Don't tell Ozzy he's turned all kangaroos yellow.

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 10:49, closed)

Defence trifle: only hot tea afterwards kills you

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 10:56, closed)

Dave Travis openly hard to adolescent kids, yesterday.

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 11:11, closed)

Dinosaur tried oscillating his testicles, announces Konami Yakuza.

( drimble he'd been white, he'd been black, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 11:32, closed)

I like this!

(s0ckpuppet logging out to reply to you if you're not careful, Wed 21 Aug 2013, 11:44, closed)