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Overheard the other day: "I've told you before - stop swearing in front of the kids, for fuck's sake." Your tales of double standards please.

(, Thu 19 Feb 2009, 12:21)
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Governmental Hypocrisy on a grand scale
It's not terribly surprising that a politician might be a little hypocritical, but this takes the biscuit.

In summary:
Jacqui Smith - Home Secretary and Champion of multiple Snitch On Your Neighbours Schemes - has been snitched on by her neighbours.

Apparently she's received £116,000 expenses by claiming that a bedroom in her sisters house is her primary residence and so the taxpayer must shell out for the house in Redditch that her husband and kids live in. But neighbours of her sister have reported that she's hardly ever there.

Benefit Fraud Hotline strikes again!


(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 18:10, 21 replies)
Nice one
Think all politicians are complete and utter cunts. The fella who used to rent the flat below mine was a lib dem councillor in my Borough - he claimed for car parking expenses as they cost a shitload round here. Thing is, he didn't have a car. I grassed him up. It was possibly the most pleasure I've ever had in my life that didn't involve my cock.
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 19:01, closed)
As
much as I can't stand grasses.....they started it!
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 19:11, closed)
aside from any 'crimes'


she got well nosey neighbours !

Mrs Taplin, 33, claimed: "She is virtually never here on a Sunday and you don't see much of her in the summer. I would say she spends no more than a third of the year here."

"Mr Taplin, 46, added: "You can tell when she is here because the police guards arrive first. They turn up mid-morning on Monday and leave mid-morning on Thursday."

"I cannot recall when they have been here any other nights of the week."



for the love of flying monkey spunk, do these two consumers have nothing else to do ?
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 19:14, closed)
Even if they did
I'm sure Mrs Smith is pleased with their vigilance in service to the state.
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 19:21, closed)
I cannot believe
that she hasn't resigned over this BLATANT abuse of expenses.
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 19:27, closed)
How she can sit there with a straight face
and claim that her sister's back bedroom is her primary residence while her husband and sodding kids live in Redditch is beyond me.

Someone should ring Social Services.
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 19:30, closed)
I shall be voting her/them out in the next election
and I don't normally bother to vote.

They have taken the biscuit, took it in turns to wank on it and then shoved it down our collective throats.
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 19:56, closed)
She's not done anything illegal.
Nor has she broken any rules.

MPs have to keep a place in their constituencies, and a place at Westminster. Without that, they couldn't do their jobs. They also ought to have it paid for - without that, only the rich could be MPs.

There is no scandal here. Note that she was reported to David Cameron, not the police.
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 20:29, closed)
I like this.

(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 20:43, closed)
It's not that
It's that she's reversed it. Instead of the taxpayer picking up the tab for the Westminster bedroom she rents off her sister to attend parliament, she instead insists that's her primary residence and makes the taxpayer fork out for her 5 bedroom detached house in her constituency.

Even that might be barely swallowable if the bedroom WAS her primary residence. The story is that her neighbours have reported her because it ISN'T.

She HAS broken the rules by fraudulently claiming she lives somewhere she doesn't. And her eagerness to have us all shop the fraudster next door is what has done her in.

If in five years time she is not a tuppence-hapenny crack whore, there is no justice*.

*may not necessarily constitute justice
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 20:50, closed)
But...
... the rules state that it's up to the MP to declare which is the primary, and which the secondary residence.

As far as I've seen, there's been no evidence of fraud. What there has been is a politically-motivated pile-in, in which someone making a suggestion is treated as a scandal, irrespective of whether there's any grounds.

As for her rarely being in... well, so what?
(, Tue 24 Feb 2009, 9:20, closed)
As far as I'm aware
(my sister works for an MP)

their primary residence is the one they spend more nights in than any other. I don't think the MPs get to choose as such.

She is being called out on it because she doesn't spend the majority of her time there, and thus the place where her husband and kids live is her primary residence.

If she hasn't broken the letter of the rules then she's definitely broken the spirit of them. Sadly I don't expect her to resign over it, as she will never under any circumstances accept that she's wrong about anything. The woman is dangerously unhinged, one of the worst out of a bad lot in the current government.
(, Tue 24 Feb 2009, 9:36, closed)
I'm fairly sure they do get to choose...
I agree with you that she's one of the madder members of the current cabinet... but this isn't a resigning matter.


I almost worked for an MP once. I rang about a job advertised in The Times. "Office of Anne Widdecombe", said the man at the other end of the line...

I put down the phone.
(, Tue 24 Feb 2009, 10:52, closed)
Right, after a bit of digging I found it!
The Green Book - Parliamentary Salaries, Allowances and Pensions (pdf)

The pages on the Additional Costs Allowance are pretty vague (I suppose they don't want to shoot themselves in the foot too much), but:

"3.11.1. Definitions

Main home

When you enter Parliament we will ask you to give the address of your main UK home on form ACA1 for the purposes of ACA and travel entitlements.

Members are expected to locate their main homes in the UK. It is your responsibility to tell us if your main home changes. This will remain your main home unless you tell us otherwise. The location of your main home will normally be a matter of fact. If you have more than one home, your main home will normally be the one where you spend more nights than any other. If there is any doubt about which is your main home, please consult the Department of Finance and Administration.
"

The following is also quite amusing:

"3.3.1. Principles

You must ensure that arrangements for your ACA claims are above reproach and that there can be no grounds for a suggestion of misuse of public money. Members should bear in mind the need to obtain value for money from accommodation, goods or services funded from the allowances.

3.3.2.
You must avoid any arrangement which may give rise to an accusation that you are, or someone close to you is, obtaining an immediate benefit or subsidy from public funds or that public money is being diverted for the benefit of a political organisation.
"

Burn the witch, I say!
(, Tue 24 Feb 2009, 12:17, closed)
Errr...
she HAS broken the rules. Check the voting register - she voted twice - from both places. That's illegal. She can't be resident in BOTH constituencies.
(, Tue 24 Feb 2009, 7:56, closed)
Depends on the election.
For local elections, the rules're different.
(, Tue 24 Feb 2009, 9:17, closed)
Redditch is the dullest place in the world
If she spends any time there at all , then she's been punished enough.
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 20:39, closed)
Whatever this is about..
..fuck Jacqui Smith.. fuck Jacqui Smith.. fuck Jacqui Smith.. I could go on..
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 22:44, closed)
my name is admiral crunch
and I fully endorse this message
(, Tue 24 Feb 2009, 9:45, closed)
You seem surprised
She is a Labour politician. Corruption is mandatory.
(, Mon 23 Feb 2009, 22:57, closed)
As we learned yet again today
when Jack Straw announced he'd be keeping the minutes of some Cabinet sessions secret.

Just what is it he's ashamed to let us know, eh?
(, Tue 24 Feb 2009, 19:23, closed)

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