To think people believe in God because they're used to religion being here is just stupid.

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:02, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

No it isn't.
It's not the only reason but a part of it.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:06, Reply)

The argument is categorically unresolvable
Atheists will point out that there is no proof for the existence of God and believers will cite the necessity of faith. Neither party is likely to convince the other.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:06, Reply)

Yes it's a fairly pointless argument to have
but that doesn't mean that one side isn't right.

It's like AV (yeah I went there) despite infallible logic in favour of the change, some people just go LALALALALALA!
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:09, Reply)

Because a huge amount of complete bullshit has been published in favour of the counterargument, Al
Religion. Not AV.
(Darth Foxtrot A one-man army dedicated to making fetch happen, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:12, Reply)

:(

( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:23, Reply)

Faith is turning the weakness of lack of evidence into a strength
by saying that God/Allah/the FSM doesn't provide evidence specifically so that we can demonstrate faith.

I feel uncomfortable with a supreme being who says people who base their decisions on feelings and instinct are better than those who use logic and reason. I'm not saying they should be considered worse, I just don't think they should be elevated above rational people.
( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:13, Reply)

Actually I think it's a very pertinant point
would you have just realised that God existed in the way you believe in it had it not been for your upbringing and the way other people around you told you it worked?

No, you wouldn't. The fact that there are many different religions demonstrates this in spades.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:08, Reply)

racist.

( JeffTheDogFucker Can you dig it?, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:10, Reply)

^this
I know what I want to say but can't put it into words.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:11, Reply)

Who came up with the concept then?
If no one had up until one was born then surely the concept of a higher being or "purpose" in life would be imminently forthcoming?

I don't think there is a period of human history that doesn't share the concept in one form or another?
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:11, Reply)

People use stories to justify things they don't understand
Hence gods of the sun and the lightning.

Anyway, I'm not getting into this, because as Kristine says, it's up to her to believe whatever she wants and I'm fully in favour of this. She doesn't tell people that they are wrong for not believing what she believes.

But I would say that BGB is also entitled to her view to not want to go out with someone who believes in god, because at some point in a relationship, you are going to have a clash of ideologies regarding it.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:15, Reply)

Yeah and probably no anal.

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:17, Reply)

Just because someone is religious
doesn't mean they won't let you peg them.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:19, Reply)

I thought God didn't like bum sex.

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:20, Reply)

Priests seem to fucking love it.
And the old pope was very keen.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:21, Reply)

It's funny that people aren't wrong for believing in God.
Yet they are morons for believing in FPTP.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:28, Reply)

No, you are completely
misconstruing what I'm saying.

People have the right, if they so wish, to believe in god, any god.

Doesn't make them right, but it's their choice. I've given up arguing about AV, it's making me too angry. It's a failure of logical argument against ideology and stupidity and It's just getting me too pissed off, so yes, I do think those arguing in favour of FPTP are stupid cunts, but I'm not going to get into it anymore.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:33, Reply)

OK Al.
Excuse my gentle baiting.
(Set your faces to Stunned Bigly, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:35, Reply)

If there had been no religion before our God then I would be more inclined to have faith.
But as I stated previously, religion of one sort or another has been around since man evolved as a way of coping with the world around him. Look at scientology. Each of us knows what a pile of wank it is but the scientologists don't and would argue fiercly their point of view.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:16, Reply)

In 2011 it's not a fair argument.

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:13, Reply)

See above
I hope your braces get put on right and aren't too sore.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:16, Reply)

LOOK FOOL
the only thing I'm saying is that the idea is insulting to free thinkers that have been around for thousands of years.
I have my own ideas and ways I feel about it, in some ways I may conform, but to me only you can choose the way you feel about it.
I understand that religion has been passed from generation to generation but that doesn't force you, especially now, to believe in God.
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:25, Reply)

It's not insulting to say to people that had no way of knowing better that they were wrong.
It's more insulting to look at all the evidence and then close your eyes and go LALALALALALALALALA.

But it's your choice.

And I'm not going to get into this
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:29, Reply)

how is that insulting to you?
how is that insulting to you?

nevermind
people may think I'm stupid and that's fine
but I'm glad I feel the way I feel and that's all I can say about it
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:31, Reply)

LALALALALALALALALALALA
Have you seen this?

(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:34, Reply)

does your wife want any chocolate? you never responded to my gaz, you WHORE

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:35, Reply)

Oh man, that's so rude of me
I do apologise. My wife likes posh chocolate, all the Girradelli stuff we tried she loved, but she's not keen on any Hershys chocolate.

She really likes Reeses peanut butter cups too.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:38, Reply)

i was going to send posh chocolates but you mentioned the hersheys
it will be sent out this weekend
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:43, Reply)

Sweeeeeet!
I shall look forward to it. Thank you.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:44, Reply)

It doesn't matter because we're going to die in 2012

(PsychoChomp, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:17, Reply)

Thank fuck for that.
I hate going to the gymn.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:19, Reply)

I hope I get to run the Marathon before it ends.

(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:22, Reply)

You're saving your sweaty shorts for me yeah?

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:27, Reply)

I'll bring them up to your party
and go running through the dales.
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:28, Reply)

I thought it was May 21st this year.
*checks calendar*
( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:27, Reply)

I'll be on holiday so suits me fine.

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:31, Reply)

the world ending won't ruin your holiday?

( Lisette von Falcon, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:34, Reply)

Nah! I'd rather go whilest having a good time.

( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:38, Reply)

And seeing some sexy b3tans in lycra running shorts.

(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:41, Reply)

That sucks
I was looking forward to seeing your house.

and sniffing your undies
(Bazongaloid, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:35, Reply)

There is a very small chance it won't happen.
So fingers crossed.
( girlinthehole, Wed 4 May 2011, 14:39, Reply)