Nothing much changed then
There's a weird split between people who are screaming for benefits to be withdrawn/ bring back National Service etc, and equally cunty people who blame it all on 'the system' and 'the man' and spew bullshit about how the rioters were protesting and it's all the fault of EMA cuts etc
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:22, 3 replies, latest was 15 years ago)

the last is clearly bollocks
cunts taking the opportunity to be cunts while they think they can get away with it.
( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:24, Reply)

There is a line somewhere in the middle
where you can agree that anyone who actually rioted should get punished, but you can see that allowing people to live in really shit bits of london with shit schools and no jobs and no prospects of getting a job isn't going to make people think rationally about whether or not they should go and nick stuff.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:25, Reply)

Stop making it look like I agree with you.
I have a reputation to consider.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:27, Reply)

We should send them all to Scotland, and they can live in shit areas andhave shit schools up there instead
maybe around badger's house, that'd cheer him up!
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:29, Reply)

I was under the impression that the smelly underclass were allowed to leave their festering sink estates by means of subsidised public transportation throughtout the Capital and indeed beyond

( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:30, Reply)

they are also allowed to have some of the best schooling in the world and
one of the most supportive benefits systems in the world. ho hum.
( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:32, Reply)

See also the festering sinkhole estates being a thing of the past, the real shit having been torn down and the rest having been renovated to very high standards
The LA's will turn their noses up at private accommodation that they deem 'too small' for LA tenants. Especially in Camden, Islington and Westminster the estates are in very central locations that private tenants would struggle to afford the rent in. Not that the Council tenants have to fret over their heavily subsidised rents lol
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:38, Reply)

Do you actually write for the Daily Mail?
Or just read it.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:42, Reply)

LOL I'm on numerous 'sink' estates in London throughout the week man.
You need to open your eyes my friend.
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:44, Reply)

Are you a professional burglar?

(Bazongaloid, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:45, Reply)

If only
Some of the biggest televisions I've ever seen have been down on the Packham Estate
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:49, Reply)

Rory old Boy, you may well in this instance have a right to an opinion
Sadly the fact that you are, or spend your time on here pretending to be, a hate-filled mollusc of a man means that I shall instantly discount it.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:50, Reply)

Excellent, our resident Che Guevara is now the arbiter of when people can have an opinion or not. Irrespective of his own ignorance of the subject.
Why don’t you fuck off and sing the red flag to the New Cross Man Dem, tell em that you feel for their socio-political struggles against 'the man'.
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:58, Reply)

As far as I recall
Rory works or has worked in housing in London. Having an unpopular viewpoint doesn't mean it's wrong
( Amberl was stripey and dominated Europe, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:45, Reply)

But having a brutally simplistic viewpoint
whilst ignoring the reality of the situation does mean it's wrong
(Bazongaloid, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:46, Reply)

I didn't say he was wrong.
I said he sounded like the daily Mail, which I maintain is true, fee free to disagree.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:52, Reply)

Well clearly you're correct
and actually none of these problems which we thought had occurred have actually happened. Must have all been a misunderstanding.

We'd better just go and shoot all the people in tottenham in the head.
(Bazongaloid, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:34, Reply)

It's the people themselves who make these areas of London shit. The government provides them with state of the art new build schools, and teachers with Nationally approved qualifications, and yet it's still fucking shit.
There's nothing wrong with the infrastructure they're living in, and they get plenty of beer tokens to get them by, and yet they're still not happy. It's all take take take man.
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:43, Reply)

Yes Rory

(Bazongaloid, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:44, Reply)

Great, so we're all agreed then.
We need to get some sortof petition together to vent our collective fury.
( Light In Chains maker of the ikea sofa, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:46, Reply)

I'm way to zoned out to read everything here.
BUT, but, I really don't get the "get out of the shitty tower block by an means" thing. It's bullshit. We have a tube system. We have a bus system. Anyone can get anywhere in london, they'll even pay for it for it 'till you find your feet. I know, and this is not an exasoration, billionares who "Escaped the hood", and there are plenty of millionares who have too. You don't have to resort to crime, and who the hell do they think they are, The Crays? The Richardsons? _They_ used crime to escape the hood, _they_ are what these people aspire to be, and they'd be fucking ashamed that some little scrote from their 'state would randomly turn over buisnesses in that fassion (Ok, fine, protection rackets, they'd do it that way, which is why they're wrong, but I mean, they would be disgusted by it. Or they would have organised it a lot better).

You know what makes someone rise up against their humble beginings? Hunger. Pure and simple. And these kids don't have it. They're peckish at best.
( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 18:51, Reply)

I take a middle road
I think underlying societal conditions may have had a hand it it, but this is not an excuse and everyone caught and convicted should get the proper sentence for whatever it is they are convicted of.

But then I'm weird.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:27, Reply)

off with his head!

( Vipros. clever got me this far, then tricky got me in, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:27, Reply)

Well clearly.
These are the ranting of a dangerous pinko lefty. I should probably be strung up.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:30, Reply)

by your left wing beard you mung bean eating hippy

( Naked Ape call me Caitlyn, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:30, Reply)

oddly I do have quite a left-wing beard, like an older Trotsky
But I do not think I've ever eaten a mung bean
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Thu 11 Aug 2011, 17:33, Reply)