Space.
The infinity of space spins me the fuck out.

Non-internet work based distractions. Well, I spent far too long on Monday staring out the window at The London Eye wondering how big a hamster it would need to make it go round. My conclusion was 'fucking massive'
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 13:50, 2 replies, latest was 14 years ago)

I like this
Both parts
( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 13:51, Reply)

Space isn't infinite, it's just very big

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 13:52, Reply)

Cheers poo Hawking

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 13:54, Reply)

I don't understand the shape of it though
apparently you can never fly to the edge of space, you just keep going
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 13:55, Reply)

infinitely?

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 13:56, Reply)

nope, the way it was explained to me, it's like the game Asteroids
only instead of going off one side and appearing on another, you just never leave it
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 13:57, Reply)

Like walking round the outside of a ping pong ball, you can just go forever.
Although it would have to be a big ping pong ball. Bigger than the fucking massive hamster that works The London Eye.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 13:58, Reply)

That is big

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:00, Reply)

4 dimensional sphere, innit?

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 14 Sep 2011, 13:58, Reply)

oh of course, how silly of me
?
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 13:59, Reply)

It's like a doughnut.
Full of jam
( Kroney, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:01, Reply)

mmmm, universe jam

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:01, Reply)

And you can put your cock through the hole.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:01, Reply)

OK, I'll have a crack, but I'm not a scientist.
Say you were a 2 dimensional being (basically up and down did not exist for you) and you lived on a 3 dimensional sphere. You could travel forever in the 2 dimensions you existed in and never reach an end, only back where you came from.

This does not make the sphere infinite, just finite in a direction you cannot perceive or travel in.

So use that analogy for yourself as a three dimensional being (as you are) and the universe as a 4 dimensional sphere. It's not infinite, but in a direction we can't/dont 'do'.

This may all be bollocks.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:04, Reply)

I'm beginning to think scarpe had a point

(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:10, Reply)

But that's my confusion.
If it's infinite I can't get my head round it, and if it's not infinite, what the hell is on the other side?
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 13:56, Reply)

exactly
that brian cox thing was cool, apparently the centre of the universe is a supermassive blackhole with galaxies spinning around it several times a minute
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 13:58, Reply)

Great, now I'm confused about the centre of the universe as well as the outside.
If, indeed, an outside even exists.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:04, Reply)

The "Clayverse"

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:05, Reply)

ooh, can we visit Wallace & Gromit?
because I'd really like to stamp on them.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:06, Reply)

AND, and..... some people have a system on Deal Or No Deal or Roulette, but it's random every time.

( G/PP 💩💩💩💩💩&#128, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:50, Reply)

Depends on your definition.
And space and the "universe" are different.
The argument for the universe being infinate is that its self generating so even though there is an edge you can never meet it because just going there pushes it further.
(PsychoChomp, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:04, Reply)

At which point my head explodes.
Because this feels deeply unsatisfying. What is it expanding into?
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:05, Reply)

Kittenland

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:06, Reply)

Now you're just confusing me with your Clayverses and Kittenlands.
I am begining to suspect you are not a real scientist after all.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:07, Reply)

I didn't say I was!

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:14, Reply)

Well don't come in here
with all your white coat and clipboard and ticking things off if you don't want me to think you are a scientist.
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:15, Reply)

*undresses*

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:17, Reply)

It's not expanding into anything. It's just expanding.
For anything to exist, there has to be a something. Outside of the universe, there isn't a something, therefore there's no anything.

I appreciate that this won't help much.
( Kroney, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:08, Reply)

I think I need to go and lay down with a damp towel on my forehead.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:10, Reply)

basically space is a circle
if you step out of the circle a man in a pointy hat pokes you back in with a stick
(Quinton had to abandon other account as i broke it, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:14, Reply)

At least that I understand.

( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:17, Reply)

Just think of it like how Mummy and Daddy used to treat you

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:20, Reply)

It all kind of rests on whether you can wrap your head around the concept that it's only infinite
to human perception. Like Comrade was saying, if you couldn't look up to see the sky, you could walk on the Earth forever, thinking it was all there was. The only thing that lets us see that the Earth isn't all there is because we can see the sky and the stars and stuff.

We can't see beyond the universe because we can't perceive the stuff beyond it. We can't travel in it and therefore, to us, it's infinite. Or at least so close to infinite given our current science that we can't see the end.
( Kroney, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:22, Reply)

And I think that's my problem
forcing my brain to accept the concept. It just won't 'stay'. I always think I've understood the theory and then suddenly, BANG! my head just forces it out again to be replaced by something akin to 'Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck'
( scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:28, Reply)

It's bigger than Dorking, Poo Hawking

( Monty Boyce, My cheese game is strong, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:13, Reply)

But not as attractive for property investment

( Kroney, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:19, Reply)

"The back garden goes on FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............."

( sporters I’m sincerely gratitude to you, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:20, Reply)

I think I laughed at this because I'm hungover.

(PsychoChomp, Wed 14 Sep 2011, 14:20, Reply)