Seriously?
I'm not touching that with a barge pole but there are reams of info on the web about it if you actually care. Start with the wikipedia artical if you want the basics. I'd also imagine it varies from person to person.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:26, 1 reply, 14 years ago)

damn.
I was hoping for some good banter. Why the fuck would I read what utter tools on the internet write? I've got you lot for that.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:29, Reply)

Ahh, as I expected, looking for a fight rather than information.
Sorry, I'm a very lax veggie and I don't preach, for me the reason is because I want to.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:33, Reply)

I am genuinely interested, not looking for a fight
but I realise it's a pointless minefield because it really depends on whay people mean by the "ethics" of it.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:35, Reply)

If you are genuinely interested there are better places to find out
not least because Swipe, Blousie and myself are atypical vegetarians. There are also a ton of different answers, some of the basics outlined here. Personally I wish both sides would stop sniping and jus eat what they want to.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:47, Reply)

^this

( girlinthehole, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:48, Reply)

I'm not sniping. I've asked to a genuine answer to something that confuses me.
You seem to think I'm doing this for the lolz.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:51, Reply)

Maybe vegans think that we've reached a moral and technological point where killing something to eat is not necessary anymore.
We can live without meat quite successfully.
( girlinthehole, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:01, Reply)

when we evolve to be able to digest cellulose, hemicellulose and lignin
that might be true. Although, granted, the major driving factor for that would be consumption of them, so you've got a fair point
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:15, Reply)

I'm just guessing tbh.
I'm more against something suffering for my consumption.
( girlinthehole, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:17, Reply)

You've admitted to baiting, but OK.
Personally, my reasons are a combination of what Beej says about farming practices, combined with being unwilling to kill anything personally, so I find it morally consistent not to eat it. I would kill and or eat animals if I needed to, hell I'd kill and or eat you if I needed to, but I don't, so I don't. There are other reasons and Its not all clear in my head yet, but that's thr thrust of it for me.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:03, Reply)

Nah, I was referring to if I ever abuse vegetarianism on here
that's me baiting. I'm not abusing any choice at all in this instance, it's the ultimate expression of the ethics I don't understand.

I understand your reasons as you personal decisions, of course, I guess I'm thinking more of a "group ethic" thing as to why human society thinks it matters why eating meat is something should be stopped if not necessary, but happily continues with other practices which are vastly more harmful and equally as unnecessary without a second's thought. But, like you, I haven't fully thought this through, I just wondered what people thought.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:13, Reply)

because humans, in groups, are morons basically.
once you accept this you'll find the world less confusing.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:22, Reply)

Oh I know this. I'm a University lecturer, remember?
I wonder why they are so selectively moronic though.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:29, Reply)

Human nature, innit?
Also, being a lecturer you get to meet the 'clever ones', just think the average, voting, prole is a good whack less bright that most people you interact with.
( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:32, Reply)

They don't snipe all the animals, bolt guns usuallu
And big fat swords for halal
( SteveFrench Cardio is for homo's. do you even lift bro?, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:01, Reply)

A middling county cricket side pretty good in the 90's?

( The Light in Chains don't touch the Pope's boner, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:14, Reply)

Personally I became a vegetarian not because I thought eating meat was bad but because of the terrible way they were treated in being farmed.
This was about twenty years ago and it has changed a bit but I really don't miss red meat and therefore don't bother buying free range.
( girlinthehole, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:34, Reply)

I completely accept this as an choice
it's the idea that not eating meat at all is more ethical that confuses me.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:45, Reply)

If you'r basing that on my vegan cake comment is was what we in the industry call a joke.

( CQ Knows the truth, all of it., Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:47, Reply)

not at all
I realised that. I just thought I'd try and add another serious discussion to the thread.
( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:49, Reply)

Quite right, there weren't nearly enough questions in the start of this thread.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:56, Reply)

I have rather totally realised my error, here.

( the mighty badger Aphrodite, on a bar stool, by your side, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 12:56, Reply)

I dunno, you've sparked off more debate in your sub-thread than in the main.

( tangledupinblue hairy badge with moving eyes, Tue 25 Oct 2011, 13:10, Reply)